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Post by Arthur Figgis on Oct 25, 2021 7:13:04 GMT
The FT is the only UK newspaper that appears to have picked up on the Bolloré angle so far. Which is odd, as Vivendi used to be a staple of reporting on French stories. The most astonishing thing in yesterday's article is that Paris Match sells 550k copies a week. What about Manatee Fair?
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Post by neilm on Oct 25, 2021 9:02:23 GMT
The most astonishing thing in yesterday's article is that Paris Match sells 550k copies a week. What about Manatee Fair? Hank Hippopopalous is dropping it around later.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 25, 2021 14:12:39 GMT
Hank Hippopopalous is dropping it around later. Has he got. That thing. he sent him?
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Post by ibfc on Oct 25, 2021 17:26:37 GMT
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Post by johng on Nov 28, 2021 14:21:38 GMT
Interesting to see Macron creep up. World elects has it wrong though as confiance means confidence or trust and not approval.
The same poll has Macron clearly ahead in voting intention with a double digit lead versus Le Pen and Zemmour who are fighting it out for second. The run-off poll has Macron 55-45 vs Le Pen and 59-41 vs Zemmour which seems about average for recent polls.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 30, 2021 20:11:47 GMT
Zemmour has finally announced he will run. He is due on the 20H programme this evening, maybe relique caught it?
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Post by relique on Nov 30, 2021 20:22:11 GMT
Zemmour has finally announced he will run. He is due on the 20H programme this evening, maybe relique caught it? I stayed well away. I have no interest in him. Today was the day Josephine Baker entered le Panthéon, something a very interesting (and close to my ideas) philosopher Régis Debray first asked. A very admirable woman that all the woke and their ancestors (someone shared on Facebook a Libération article about her last show a few weeks before her death; quite a hateful text) hate: she loved France, fought for her country and was a gaullist. However they cannot officially hate her as she was a fierce anti-racist, who marched with MLK, a migrant woman who personnally suffered from segregation. The op-ed in the Washington post from one of the french imperialist agent from the anglo-saxon views Ms Diallo is for example a series of stunts to not trash Baker herself but only everything she stood for. Quite crass
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 1, 2021 9:36:42 GMT
Zemmour's announcement is on YouTube. The content is fairly predictable. But the style is interesting: you cannot quite imagine a British political announcement looking the same way for fear of being accused of pseudery or worse.
The most amusing line in it is that: "Président Macron claimed to be a new man, but is merely the synthesis of the worst aspects of both his predecessors".
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 1, 2021 12:47:35 GMT
Voting for the primary of the centre-right begins today and will last for four days.
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Post by cogload on Dec 2, 2021 14:20:07 GMT
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Post by relique on Dec 2, 2021 14:51:41 GMT
A result that is quite noteworthy similar to the Green primary: four candidates between 22 and 27%, including one seemingly radical and one more centrist qualified for the second round.
Bertrand and Juvin have already thrown their support towards Pécresse.
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Post by ilerda on Dec 2, 2021 18:04:59 GMT
Certainly not a result that suggests a united party, or even one with a similar vision for itself. Can't bode well for their prospects in the general election.
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Post by nelson on Dec 2, 2021 19:12:38 GMT
A result that is quite noteworthy similar to the Green primary: four candidates between 22 and 27%, including one seemingly radical and one more centrist qualified for the second round. Bertrand and Juvin have already thrown their support towards Pécresse. Presumably Barnier will as well. Does Ciotti have a chance in the run-off or will the "moderate" vote coalesce around Pécresse and give her a clear win?
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Post by relique on Dec 2, 2021 19:46:47 GMT
Barnier did declare his support to Pécresse.
I don't think the voters will coalesce as well as could have been expected a few years ago. Pécresse has the burden of leaving the party in 2017 and some long-time party faithfuls have had trouble with that.
Ciotti has a real shot at becoming president of the party after 2022 as most of the people who got their card to support Bertrand and Pécresse (who both left after 2017) will probably not stay long.
I think it will probably be more like 55-45 (maybe a little bit more for Pécresse ).
But yes, this does not bode well for LR for the april election.
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Post by johng on Dec 2, 2021 19:47:41 GMT
Extreme pettiness from Andrew Neale on Twitter. Barnier did better than most imagined and was 1.8 points off first place.
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Post by relique on Dec 2, 2021 20:50:49 GMT
Extreme pettiness from Andrew Neale on Twitter. Barnier did better than most imagined and was 1.8 points off first place. Well, the election mostly revolved around the debates, and he was quite bad in them. He had quite an open road with a closed primary as he remained faithful to LR but 10 years in the cold of Brussels did him no good. And he appeared to have flipped flopped (flip flopped ? sorry my English does not go that far) on most of his past positions. No one truly knew what was his deal
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 2, 2021 21:01:20 GMT
Extreme pettiness from Andrew Neale on Twitter. Barnier did better than most imagined and was 1.8 points off first place. Well, the election mostly revolved around the debates, and he was quite bad in them. He had quite an open road with a closed primary as he remained faithful to LR but 10 years in the cold of Brussels did him no good. And he appeared to have flipped flopped (flip flopped ? sorry my English does not go that far) on most of his past positions. No one truly knew what was his deal Flip-flopped. Although the flip-flop was of course invented by a Frenchman, Philippe Floppe. I'll get my manteau.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 2, 2021 21:06:47 GMT
Ciotti and Pécresse have both stated tonight that they will support the ultimate winner regardless. A sensible display of unity.
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Post by ilerda on Dec 3, 2021 0:02:25 GMT
Extreme pettiness from Andrew Neale on Twitter. Barnier did better than most imagined and was 1.8 points off first place. I really don’t see how this is petty at all, let alone extreme pettiness. What do you object to in a tweet that is literally just reporting facts?
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Post by rcronald on Dec 3, 2021 9:37:38 GMT
Can someone please explain the relative ideological positioning of all of the 4 leading LR candidates?
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