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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 6:26:27 GMT
Heading back to bed for a while. Have fun!
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 9, 2016 6:37:35 GMT
Just woke up. In fact I'm still in bed. Is this the single biggest polling failure of all time?
Those vote-rigging stories unsurprisingly have proven to be bollocks, eh?
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 9, 2016 6:41:06 GMT
There seems to be a counting and a media reluctance to call the next few seats because it will confirm the Trump win. What other re4asons can there be to have such long periods for the counting? It has been an age since the last state was called.
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Post by iainbhx on Nov 9, 2016 6:48:06 GMT
What are the rules in Pennsylvania with provisional ballots and the like? I don't see how Clinton can make up that margin from the outstanding precincts (some, given that they're mostly in urban counties, but nowhere near enough). However, if there are enough disputed votes then it might be enough to delay a formal call for a couple of days. NYTimes has just called PA for Trump. It's effectively over.
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Post by curiousliberal on Nov 9, 2016 6:48:58 GMT
Trump has won Pennsylvania, according to AP.
There is now no realistic path for Clinton to win, or get a tie. The Senate could be a tie, however, and there is still a potential path for presidential victory (although it would require a political miracle...not that such a thing can be ruled out in 2016).
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Post by iainbhx on Nov 9, 2016 6:50:17 GMT
There seems to be a counting and a media reluctance to call the next few seats because it will confirm the Trump win. What other re4asons can there be to have such long periods for the counting? It has been an age since the last state was called. They are starting to call PA and WI - but some people are being very cautious.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 9, 2016 6:59:44 GMT
I suspect tonight will see rioting in the places where people failed to turn out.
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 9, 2016 7:05:41 GMT
Clinton's campaign manager has just said they're still holding out for victory.
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Post by iainbhx on Nov 9, 2016 7:10:23 GMT
Clinton's campaign manager has just said they're still holding out for victory. Let's face it, he's sent them home because she can't go out there and concede.
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Post by curiousliberal on Nov 9, 2016 7:10:37 GMT
I suspect tonight will see rioting in the places where people failed to turn out. Trump's 'rigged election' rhetoric may backfire. If he has actually managed to cause Americans to question their own voting system, some will question - perhaps violently - this presidential result. Of course, this would be a terrible thing - it was yet another reason why he and everything he stood for should have lost. This was supposed to be the election where alt right ideology proved inferior to mainstream conservatism. Instead, it has done the opposite, and shown up what might previously have been explained away as a bunch of basement-dwelling, racist troglodytes as something far more serious. If anyone was still laughing last night, it's no longer funny. It's time to for the Democrats and moderate Republicans to set aside their partisan differences and defend the USA from this malevolent ideology. Trump will wreak immense damage to the USA and the globe anyway, but this can be contained if Congress stops him passing any laws. On the bright side, the inevitable 4-year disaster that will follow this election may well lead to a Democratic landslide in 2020. It's a long way off, but one can hope, and campaign, for it.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 9, 2016 7:13:27 GMT
Clinton's campaign manager has just said they're still holding out for victory. Tosser and loser.
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Post by maxque on Nov 9, 2016 7:13:57 GMT
There seems to be a counting and a media reluctance to call the next few seats because it will confirm the Trump win. What other re4asons can there be to have such long periods for the counting? It has been an age since the last state was called. Since Florida 2000, they are extremely cautious.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 9, 2016 7:22:17 GMT
Clinton's campaign manager has just said they're still holding out for victory. Let's face it, he's sent them home because she can't go out there and concede. Probably needs medication and rest after a temper tantrum to end all temper tantrums?
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Post by curiousliberal on Nov 9, 2016 7:24:56 GMT
Let's face it, he's sent them home because she can't go out there and concede. Probably needs medication and rest after a temper tantrum to end all temper tantrums? Even @pjones hasn't gone after her on the basis that she has temper tantrums. Her response the level of vitriol she's received throughout this campaign has been magnificently controlled (indeed, her professional, impersonal nature may have hurt her), as was her conduct when questioned by the Benghazi committee. Why do you think she has them?
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 9, 2016 7:27:02 GMT
Probably needs medication and rest after a temper tantrum to end all temper tantrums? Even @pjones hasn't gone after her on the basis that she has temper tantrums. Her response the level of vitriol she's received throughout this campaign has been magnificently controlled (indeed, her professional, impersonal nature may have hurt her), as was her conduct when questioned by the Benghazi committee. Why do you think she has them? There are many recorded instances of her having meltdowns and extreme tantrums and those are attested to by ex-staffers. Jones is a Trump supporter and champion. I think Trump is a prat. But I have made no secret of my absolute loathing for Clinton.
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Post by curiousliberal on Nov 9, 2016 7:33:53 GMT
Trump has won Wisconsin, taking him to 276, according to AP. It's over.
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 9, 2016 7:35:30 GMT
Even Fox News isn't calling PA for Trump, so there must be a good reason why the various networks aren't calling it.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 9, 2016 7:37:13 GMT
Trump has won Wisconsin, taking him to 276, according to AP. It's over. I still think he's a vulgar, awful character. But winning Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and at the very least causing a ruck in Michigan, is a mindblowing achievement by him. You don't need to be a Trumpista to appreciate that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 7:39:29 GMT
BBC - Hillary Clinton "has conceded"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 7:40:12 GMT
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