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Post by Toylyyev on Aug 13, 2021 17:33:28 GMT
It isn't even that. In 2011, the largest ethnic group in the area was White British. It may be a plurality British-Bangladeshi ward now, but I doubt if it is a majority one. However, melthamhd94nn does need to give his head a wobble. The Rahmanites may be sleazy and communitarian, but they aren't anything like the Taliban or particularly religious, although they are happy to use religion as a tool. Oh, my mistake, but it certainly doesn't have many Afghan residents I would think and, as you highlighted, the Rahmanites are hardly Islamists. They pray instead to the great god of backhanders 😉 One can see where they are coming from there though  yes i know me2 |
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 13, 2021 17:35:03 GMT
You chaps are not up to effective sarcasm are you?
A Hoover for 'suction'? I don't think so! Do you?
And, Like we are in anyway interested in the difference or care at all !!
If you're doing anything else with a hoover, I would personally like not to know of your alternative uses! And it's rather amusing to see you defending a Lib Dem, I thought you despised them? Of course the man who invented the Hoover, sorry vacuum cleaner, James Murray Spangler, is said to have got the idea from a guy who demonstrated a device that blew rather than sucked... |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Aug 13, 2021 17:44:38 GMT
If you're doing anything else with a hoover, I would personally like not to know of your alternative uses! And it's rather amusing to see you defending a Lib Dem, I thought you despised them? Of course the man who invented the Hoover, sorry vacuum cleaner, James Murray Spangler, is said to have got the idea from a guy who demonstrated a device that blew rather than sucked... A certain brand of cheap hoover seems to emulate the function of the machine which provided the original inspiration more times than it functions correctly, in my experience! |
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 13, 2021 17:52:32 GMT
Of course the man who invented the Hoover, sorry vacuum cleaner, James Murray Spangler, is said to have got the idea from a guy who demonstrated a device that blew rather than sucked... A certain brand of cheap hoover seems to emulate the function of the machine which provided the original inspiration more times than it functions correctly, in my experience! Man, that sucks! Or rather it doesn't.  |
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Post by Toylyyev on Aug 13, 2021 18:14:46 GMT
Two Lib Dem wins and a Tory win in Scotland - wonder how The National will report those? - Wick and East Caithness: LibDems claim Highland by-election win - Dalry and West Kilbride: Tories claim North Ayrshire by-election win but - SNP secure East Livingston by-election win with increased vote share and apparently a confused reporter on the ball in Inverness - LibDems win Inverness West council by-election as SNP top first preferences |
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Post by grahammurray on Aug 13, 2021 18:46:26 GMT
Two Lib Dem wins and a Tory win in Scotland - wonder how The National will report those? - Wick and East Caithness: LibDems claim Highland by-election win - Dalry and West Kilbride: Tories claim North Ayrshire by-election win but - SNP secure East Livingston by-election win with increased vote share and apparently a confused reporter on the ball in Inverness - LibDems win Inverness West council by-election as SNP top first preferences No, they won those seats and haven't merely claimed them. If you don't believe that then look at those councils' websites. |
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Post by andrew111 on Aug 13, 2021 20:26:57 GMT
- Wick and East Caithness: LibDems claim Highland by-election win - Dalry and West Kilbride: Tories claim North Ayrshire by-election win but - SNP secure East Livingston by-election win with increased vote share and apparently a confused reporter on the ball in Inverness - LibDems win Inverness West council by-election as SNP top first preferences No, they won those seats and haven't merely claimed them. If you don't believe that then look at those councils' websites. I think he was reporting the results as requested, as per the official SNP Pravda |
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Post by listener on Aug 13, 2021 20:58:05 GMT
Highland council have now put up the detailed reports on their website.
Most interesting to me were the transfers from the Green Party in Inverness West, which went 51.8% to SNP and only 15.2% to Lib Dem.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 21:02:37 GMT
Highland council have now put up the detailed reports on their website. Most interesting to me were the transfers from the Green Party in Inverness West, which went 51.8% to SNP and only 15.2% to Lib Dem. That's not *that* unexpected. The Scottish Greens are a very different beats to the England/Wales ones |
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Post by Merseymike on Aug 13, 2021 21:09:02 GMT
Highland council have now put up the detailed reports on their website. Most interesting to me were the transfers from the Green Party in Inverness West, which went 51.8% to SNP and only 15.2% to Lib Dem. That's not *that* unexpected. The Scottish Greens are a very different beats to the England/Wales ones They are very pro Independence and in effect in coalition with the SNP. May even become official. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 21:10:31 GMT
That's not *that* unexpected. The Scottish Greens are a very different beats to the England/Wales ones They are very pro Independence and in effect in coalition with the SNP. May even become official. Whereas the English ones don't stand for anything other than some kind of vassal status within the LibDems |
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Post by owainsutton on Aug 13, 2021 21:15:13 GMT
It's what STV was designed for.
Indeed it is.
It deprived the 'real' winner who got the most votes in favour of a LD.
The sole purpose of the very system.
If the LDs became dominent and started to lose seats under STV (or similar) it would be quietly dropped.
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Post by Toylyyev on Aug 13, 2021 21:30:33 GMT
They are very pro Independence and in effect in coalition with the SNP. May even become official. Whereas the English ones don't stand for anything other than some kind of vassal status within the LibDems While GPNI sit in the naughty corner together with Jim Allister. To my knowledge no one has been harmed so far, but at least it looks hard to beat. |
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Post by johnloony on Aug 13, 2021 21:55:30 GMT
Two Lib Dem wins and a Tory win in Scotland - wonder how The National will report those? - Wick and East Caithness: LibDems claim Highland by-election win - Dalry and West Kilbride: Tories claim North Ayrshire by-election win but - SNP secure East Livingston by-election win with increased vote share and apparently a confused reporter on the ball in Inverness - LibDems win Inverness West council by-election as SNP top first preferences That reminds me of a report during the miners’ strike of 1984/5 when a round of negotiations ended, and Sir Ian McGregor “declined to comment” whereas Arthur Scargill “refused to say anything”. |
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Post by ibfc on Aug 14, 2021 1:04:56 GMT
I’m surprised that the Ind didn’t win on those numbers. I’d like to see more information here on transfers for Scottish by-elections. The initial vote is not without interest, but it’s less than half the story. One assumes that the Independent here was very anti SNP. Appears that the Conservative vote broke marginally more for the Lib Dem than the SNP vote broke for the independent. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Aug 14, 2021 6:08:38 GMT
I’d like to see more information here on transfers for Scottish by-elections. The initial vote is not without interest, but it’s less than half the story. One assumes that the Independent here was very anti SNP. Appears that the Conservative vote broke marginally more for the Lib Dem than the SNP vote broke for the independent. marginally less, actually, but close enough so that the LD's first pref lead held. |
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Post by YL on Aug 14, 2021 6:43:37 GMT
(Wick & East Caithness)
Libertarian transfers: Ind 5 (31%) Lib Dem 3 (19%) Con 2 (13%) SNP 0 (0%) NT 6 (38%)
Conservative transfers: Lib Dem 188 (36%) Ind 153 (29%) SNP 13 (2%) NT 171 (33%)
SNP transfers: Ind 183 (30%) Lib Dem 138 (23%) NT 285 (47%)
(Inverness West)
Libertarian transfers: Con 2 (18%) SNP 2 (18%) Ind 2 (18%) Green 1 (9%) NT 4 (36%)
IfS transfers: SNP 11 (26%) Con 7 (17%) Ind 7 (17%) Green 4 (10%) Lib Dem 2 (5%) NT 11 (26%)
Green transfers: SNP 85 (52%) Lib Dem 25 (15%) Ind 12 (7%) Con 9 (5%) NT 33 (20%)
Independent transfers: Lib Dem 94 (37%) SNP 37 (15%) Con 33 (13%) NT 87 (35%)
Conservative transfers: Lib Dem 171 (50%) SNP 16 (5%) NT 157 (46%)
The Lib Dem was 54 behind before the Tory transfers, 101 ahead after them.
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Post by mattb on Aug 14, 2021 9:05:05 GMT
It isn't. The CON have often had more seats and I don't think LIB ever held all of the Highlands.
That depends on your definition of Scottish Highlands. If by Highlands you mean the Highland Council area, then the Liberal Democrats held all the parliamentary constituencies in that area from 2005-15 (Caithness, Sutherland & Easter Ross, Ross, Skye & Lochaber, and Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey). And also 1983-1997 and 1964-1970 and indeed most of the time up to 1945 |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 14, 2021 9:11:43 GMT
Biggs has proved every bit as dreadful as expected, and unless he is deselected, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Lutfur Rahman wins again. Rahman is now eligible to stand again, then? His brand of machine politics actually has a fair amount in common with the "old" Labour right. |
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Post by Sandy on Aug 14, 2021 9:12:51 GMT
That depends on your definition of Scottish Highlands. If by Highlands you mean the Highland Council area, then the Liberal Democrats held all the parliamentary constituencies in that area from 2005-15 (Caithness, Sutherland & Easter Ross, Ross, Skye & Lochaber, and Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey). And also 1983-1997 and 1964-1970 and indeed most of the time up to 1945 Labour won Caithness & Sutherland in 1966, so you’re incorrect there. |
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