iain
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Post by iain on May 7, 2021 0:55:03 GMT
For some reason the Sky anchor keeps saying that the turnout at the General Election was 30%
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Post by pragmaticidealist on May 7, 2021 1:04:41 GMT
Turnout above 50% according to Jon Craig.
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Post by thinwhiteduke on May 7, 2021 1:41:20 GMT
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edgbaston
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Post by edgbaston on May 7, 2021 1:47:31 GMT
Looks like labour have conceded the seat
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iain
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Post by iain on May 7, 2021 1:49:58 GMT
Looks like labour have conceded the seat |
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Post by johnloony on May 7, 2021 2:46:34 GMT
Yet again they are telling us that the turnout is "42.55%" instead of actually telling us. What is the actual turnout? What is the electorate? In other words, what is 42.55% of what?
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Post by johnloony on May 7, 2021 3:05:50 GMT
Yet again they are telling us that the turnout is "42.55%" instead of actually telling us. What is the actual turnout? What is the electorate? In other words, what is 42.55% of what? I've searched for the electorate data but can't find it. My experience as a candidate was that the Returning Officer almost always announced the verification total as a percentage (to 2 decimal places) - as if they think that we want to know a percentage - and then I would always have to go to the R.O. and ask him/her specifically what the number was. It's as if the R.O. has had his brain removed ex-officio and that they do it merely because some idiot (perhaps from the Electoral Commission) "advised" them to do it that way. |
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Post by johnloony on May 7, 2021 5:22:55 GMT
How many of you are still awake and still waiting?
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zoe
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Post by zoe on May 7, 2021 5:26:24 GMT
How many of you are still awake and still waiting? Still waiting! |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 7, 2021 5:29:04 GMT
Have not been to bed yet either.
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Post by johnloony on May 7, 2021 5:31:42 GMT
Sky News footage of the count shows that the Independent candidate Sam Lee has a large pile of votes - perhaps she will be in 3rd place?
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Post by greenhert on May 7, 2021 5:31:52 GMT
How many of you are still awake and still waiting? I am, for a start. |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 7, 2021 5:41:54 GMT
The dawning result of a Tory-gain with strong lead will quite inevitably lead to some kind of "Progressive Alliance" of Lab.&LD&GP&SNP&PC (what i had recommended for those parties already since 2010). Inclusive implementing PR or STV.
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Post by yellowperil on May 7, 2021 5:52:22 GMT
How many of you are still awake and still waiting? I am, for a start. Like any sensible person , I have just woken up after a night's sleep knowing that we would still be waiting. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 5:53:11 GMT
Like any sensible person , I have just woken up after a night's sleep knowing that we would still be waiting. Me too though I wanted another hour at least |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on May 7, 2021 5:55:55 GMT
Starmer really does deserve flak for having called this by election.
Don't think when makes a lot of difference, Hartlepool is just reflecting a North East trend this year, so delaying the election a few months wouldn't have made any difference.
Starmer is ineffective in the North East, unlike Boris. Add in Brexit, Vaccine bounce, view Labour is a middle class party now, Hartlepool was a hiding to nothing for him.
Its not just Starmer, its Labour as a whole that need to think what it stands for, is it a South East England party or a national one?
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on May 7, 2021 5:57:34 GMT
If all these rumours are even just half way true from places like Hartlepool and Sunderland then this is an existential crisis for Labour . The Labour brand is becoming toxic in places like these and voters are turning out to vote 'anti-Labour' whether it is Tory,lib dem or independent .
Its Labour's Scotland moment in the North East, will they learn from the Scottish experience? Probably not.
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right
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Post by right on May 7, 2021 6:01:38 GMT
Starmer really does deserve flak for having called this by election.
Don't think when makes a lot of difference, Hartlepool is just reflecting a North East trend this year, so delaying the election a few months wouldn't have made any difference.
Starmer is ineffective in the North East, unlike Boris. Add in Brexit, Vaccine bounce, view Labour is a middle class party now, Hartlepool was a hiding to nothing for him.
Its not just Starmer, its Labour as a whole that need to think what it stands for, is it a South East England party or a national one?
Outside London they're pretty rubbish as a South East party But generally never ever count out Labour |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on May 7, 2021 6:02:17 GMT
The dawning result of a Tory-gain with strong lead will quite inevitably lead to some kind of "Progressive Alliance" of Lab.&LD&GP&SNP&PC (what i had recommended for those parties already since 2010). Inclusive implementing PR or STV.
On what timescale?
15 to 20 years? |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on May 7, 2021 6:04:34 GMT
Don't think when makes a lot of difference, Hartlepool is just reflecting a North East trend this year, so delaying the election a few months wouldn't have made any difference.
Starmer is ineffective in the North East, unlike Boris. Add in Brexit, Vaccine bounce, view Labour is a middle class party now, Hartlepool was a hiding to nothing for him.
Its not just Starmer, its Labour as a whole that need to think what it stands for, is it a South East England party or a national one?
Outside London they're pretty rubbish as a South East party But generally never ever count out Labour
Fair on London.
Labour won't vanish but I think the loss of votes outside London will be permanent in places so Labour needs to reassess.
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