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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 18, 2021 23:18:40 GMT
WREXHAM Maesydre
MARTIN, Becca (Plaid Cymru) 150
STANFORD, Tom (Labour) 133
BROWN, Catherine (Conservative) 123
DAVIES, Roger (Liberal Democrat) 47
RAY, Clive Graham (Independent) 36
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Post by andrewteale on Mar 18, 2021 23:26:55 GMT
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Post by greyfriar on Mar 18, 2021 23:35:46 GMT
Plaid gain in Wrexham PC 150 Lab 133 Con 123 LD 47 Ind 36 Came literally from nowhere |
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Post by greenhert on Mar 18, 2021 23:39:37 GMT
Plaid gain in Wrexham PC 150 Lab 133 Con 123 LD 47 Ind 36 Wow. Plaid Cymru are generally not that strong in Wrexham and that ward is not normally competitive for PC. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 18, 2021 23:43:51 GMT
Would appear a Plaid hold in Corwen:
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Post by middleenglander on Mar 18, 2021 23:44:09 GMT
Plaid gain in Wrexham PC 150 Lab 133 Con 123 LD 47 Ind 36 Wow. Plaid Cymru are generally not that strong in Wrexham and that ward is not normally competitive for PC. Not contested this Century. But look at the electorate of ~ 1,500 and it has the characteristics of seats that changed hands if there is a strong local candidate. Not saying this is definitely the case. |
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Post by middleenglander on Mar 18, 2021 23:45:50 GMT
Would appear another Plaid gain in Corwen: Not a gain, but a hold - unopposed in last two elections. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 18, 2021 23:48:21 GMT
Maesydre has a very unusual history. In 1995 it was famously the only ward in Wales which the Conservatives gained from Labour - the winner being Stuart Andrew, now MP for Pudsey. Then it turned into a pretty safe Lib Dem seat - Labour had under 20% of the vote in 2004. Paul Jones won it in 2017 with the help of a big personal vote.
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 18, 2021 23:48:40 GMT
Would appear another Plaid gain in Corwen: Not a gain, but a hold - unopposed in last two elections. Yes, corrected, finding it really hard tonight as the Board has completely disappeared off my Tapatalk App, and using the web page on Safari browser keeps demanding I log in every time I change page. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 18, 2021 23:50:38 GMT
Incidentally Eirias is counting tomorrow morning so don't bother to stay up waiting for it.
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Post by hugh01 on Mar 18, 2021 23:58:12 GMT
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 19, 2021 7:41:46 GMT
Maesydre has a very unusual history. In 1995 it was famously the only ward in Wales which the Conservatives gained from Labour - the winner being Stuart Andrew, now MP for Pudsey. Then it turned into a pretty safe Lib Dem seat - Labour had under 20% of the vote in 2004. Paul Jones won it in 2017 with the help of a big personal vote. If Labour can't win it at the moment, it doesn't indicate they are heading for Government. Winning back Wrexham isn't optional. |
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Post by markgoodair on Mar 19, 2021 7:51:13 GMT
WREXHAM Maesydre MARTIN, Becca (Plaid Cymru) 150 STANFORD, Tom (Labour) 133 BROWN, Catherine (Conservative) 123 DAVIES, Roger (Liberal Democrat) 47 RAY, Clive Graham (Independent) 36 Plaid. 30.7% +30.7% Labour 27.2% -16.9% Con 25.2% -0.9% Lib Dem 9.6% -11.5% Ind. 7.4% -3.1% |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 19, 2021 8:05:29 GMT
Maesydre has a very unusual history. In 1995 it was famously the only ward in Wales which the Conservatives gained from Labour - the winner being Stuart Andrew, now MP for Pudsey. Then it turned into a pretty safe Lib Dem seat - Labour had under 20% of the vote in 2004. Paul Jones won it in 2017 with the help of a big personal vote. If Labour can't win it at the moment, it doesn't indicate they are heading for Government. Winning back Wrexham isn't optional. Whilst I have some sympathy for that view, this is a local byelection on a low turnout in a seat where Labour haven't particularly done well for a number of years. Really can't read too much into this. |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 19, 2021 8:25:45 GMT
If Labour can't win it at the moment, it doesn't indicate they are heading for Government. Winning back Wrexham isn't optional. Whilst I have some sympathy for that view, this is a local byelection on a low turnout in a seat where Labour haven't particularly done well for a number of years. Really can't read to much into this. I would agree that it's limited - but both low turnout and a significant percentage drop do not suggest great enthusiasm for Labour. I think this is what, somehow, they need to create. It won't happen with Starmer as leader, and falling back on the safe option of "The Tories will destroy the NHS" as they clearly intend to do in Hartlepool won't do any more than it has done in recent history. |
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Post by johng on Mar 19, 2021 10:42:12 GMT
Independent in Eirias.
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Post by agbutler on Mar 19, 2021 11:27:59 GMT
Labour in Patrick East/Kelvindale
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Post by jimboo2017 on Mar 19, 2021 11:29:45 GMT
A lot of this is already on the thread, but for completeness' sake. Potentially a busy week this week, including the first elections in Wales for about a year, if they go ahead. ARGYLL AND BUTE UA; Helensburgh and Lomond South (Lib Dem died) Candidates: BOSWELL, Henry (Liberal Democrat) BURROWS, Paul (Workers Party)CAMPBELL-STURGESS, Math (SNP) CROWE, Mike (Green) KELLY, Jane Bruce (Labour) PENFOLD, Gemma (Conservative) Workers Party although a Galloway project seems to be under the control of the CPGB (ML) |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Mar 19, 2021 11:30:44 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 19, 2021 11:32:46 GMT
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