Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Jan 6, 2021 7:27:20 GMT
I guess you'd like to rename Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale etc as Quintinshill. No, any replacement for Dumfriesshire would reflect the fact that it is a very rural constituency and therefore be based on counties. I choose Senghenydd for two reasons. 1) The disaster is part of the community's history (and following the creation of a Clackmannanshire and Dunblane constituency in the Scottish Parliament, the idea of marking a disaster as a constituency name is not a problem any more) and 2) the area is more Welsh than people realise and therefore a Welsh language name seems suitable. |
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Post by Penddu on Jan 6, 2021 14:06:24 GMT
I guess you'd like to rename Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale etc as Quintinshill. No, any replacement for Dumfriesshire would reflect the fact that it is a very rural constituency and therefore be based on counties. I choose Senghenydd for two reasons. 1) The disaster is part of the community's history (and following the creation of a Clackmannanshire and Dunblane constituency in the Scottish Parliament, the idea of marking a disaster as a constituency name is not a problem any more) and 2) the area is more Welsh than people realise and therefore a Welsh language name seems suitable. Forget the mining disaster. The area was known as Senghenydd long before they built the castle... |
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Post by Penddu on Jan 6, 2021 14:15:33 GMT
But if we are going to name seats after local disasters then can i suggest we rename Uxbridge as Boris!
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 6, 2021 15:56:29 GMT
I was gonna suggest naming whatever seat Parliament ends up in after the controlling legislation for this review.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jan 6, 2021 18:28:07 GMT
Some more constituency renamings for Harry Hayfield 's incomparable sensitivity: - Bubonic Plague (formerly known as Cities of London and Westminster)
- Empress of Ireland (formerly known as Liverpool Riverside)
- Mendi (Isle of Wight West/South, so as to retain the constituency name for the Pompey-facing side of the island)
- Potato Famine (formerly known as Belfast West)
- Pretoria (formerly known as Bolton West)
- Storegga Slides (formerly known as Beverley and Holderness)
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Post by edgbaston on Jan 8, 2021 4:17:23 GMT
Some more constituency renamings for Harry Hayfield 's incomparable sensitivity: - Bubonic Plague (formerly known as Cities of London and Westminster)
- Empress of Ireland (formerly known as Liverpool Riverside)
- Mendi (Isle of Wight West/South, so as to retain the constituency name for the Pompey-facing side of the island)
- Potato Famine (formerly known as Belfast West)
- Pretoria (formerly known as Bolton West)
- Storegga Slides (formerly known as Beverley and Holderness)
Manchester,Corporation Street Belfast, Titanic Stalybridge & Shipman, Windscale & Whitehaven, Huddersfield West & Bilberry Oldham East & The Moors Murders |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 8, 2021 8:51:32 GMT
Renaming South Suffolk as Red Barn would make it sound suitably Australian.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2021 9:24:18 GMT
 1 Wrexham Wrecsam 72058 Yes 2 Wrexham South and Buckley De Wrecsam a Bwcle 69759 Yes 3 Flintshire North Gogledd y Fflint 73664 Yes 4 Denbighshire Sir Ddinbych74078 Yes 5 Conwy Coast Arfordir Conwy75303 Yes 6 Caernarfonshire Sir Gaernarfon74299 Yes |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jan 8, 2021 10:37:09 GMT
2 Wrexham South and Buckley De Wrecsam a Bwcle 69759 Yes Oh dear god. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 8, 2021 10:38:24 GMT
Break out the pitchforks.
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 8, 2021 10:53:49 GMT
Break out the pitchforks. sorry, mine's still stuck in Neath's neck. Will try to extricate. (I am parochial about Meirionydd for biographical but essentially corny reasons.) |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jan 8, 2021 11:24:39 GMT
Break out the pitchforks. But a job in North Carolina awaits when the next re-districting comes around. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jan 8, 2021 12:01:59 GMT
2 Wrexham South and Buckley De Wrecsam a Bwcle 69759 Yes Oh dear god. He could get even more salamander-like by swapping Connah's Quay for Buckley and Ewloe. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2021 12:25:23 GMT
Having used my perceptive powers that perhaps I have not adequately enough utilised that corner of North Wales, I've tried again.  Flintshire North - 73,524 Flintshire South - 71,328 Wrexham - 70,629 |
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Post by ian48 on Jan 8, 2021 14:55:30 GMT
1 Wrexham Wrecsam 72058 Yes 2 Wrexham South and Buckley De Wrecsam a Bwcle 69759 Yes 3 Flintshire North Gogledd y Fflint 73664 Yes 4 Denbighshire Sir Ddinbych74078 Yes 5 Conwy Coast Arfordir Conwy75303 Yes 6 Caernarfonshire Sir Gaernarfon74299 Yes This is quite a good plan in NW Wales (I note that further down you have revised NE Wales and I think what you have done is far better than here). The only change to NW Wales I might make is to put Llansannan in with Denbighshire or Conwy and Uwchaled in with Caernarfon (the latter is on the A5 which runs down to Bangor so at least there is a road connection). I wouldn't call the seat Caernarfonshire, as the 7 wards west of the River Conwy were never in Caerns and that old county's most populous conurbation (Llandudno & Conwy) are not in the seat anyway. I guess Gwynedd could be a contender, but the county named Gwynedd has very different boundaries (though actually it was always a bit contentious that Gwynedd was called Gwynedd in 1974 as large parts of Clwyd, including practically the whole of old Denbighshire and Flintshire were in the old mediaeval kingdom of Gwynedd, which was pretty much co-terminious with what we think of as North Wales) |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 8, 2021 15:02:52 GMT
1 Wrexham Wrecsam 72058 Yes 2 Wrexham South and Buckley De Wrecsam a Bwcle 69759 Yes 3 Flintshire North Gogledd y Fflint 73664 Yes 4 Denbighshire Sir Ddinbych74078 Yes 5 Conwy Coast Arfordir Conwy75303 Yes 6 Caernarfonshire Sir Gaernarfon74299 Yes This is quite a good plan in NW Wales (I note that further down you have revised NE Wales and I think what you have done is far better than here). The only change to NW Wales I might make is to put Llansannan in with Denbighshire or Conwy and Uwchaled in with Caernarfon (the latter is on the A5 which runs down to Bangor so at least there is a road connection). I wouldn't call the seat Caernarfonshire, as the 7 wards west of the River Conwy were never in Caerns and that old county's most populous conurbation (Llandudno & Conwy) are not in the seat anyway. I guess Gwynedd could be a contender, but the county named Gwynedd has very different boundaries (though actually it was always a bit contentious that Gwynedd was called Gwynedd in 1974 as large parts of Clwyd, including practically the whole of old Denbighshire and Flintshire were in the old mediaeval kingdom of Gwynedd, which was pretty much co-terminious with what we think of as North Wales) most of Denbighshire is in ancient Powys, actually, unlike any square inch of Radnorshire or Breconshire. |
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Post by jamie on Jan 8, 2021 15:07:37 GMT
Manchester,Corporation Street Belfast, Titanic Stalybridge & Shipman, Windscale & Whitehaven, Huddersfield West & Bilberry Oldham East & The Moors Murders ‘Blaydon and Raoul Moat South’ has a nice ring to it... |
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Post by YL on Jan 8, 2021 15:19:37 GMT
Of course this one actually exists (well, as a council electoral area). I don't think there's much chance of it getting transferred to the constituency, though it would have made the moment when Peter Robinson went down to defeat in 2010 even more hilarious. |
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Post by john07 on Jan 8, 2021 15:34:03 GMT
Manchester,Corporation Street Belfast, Titanic Stalybridge & Shipman, Windscale & Whitehaven, Huddersfield West & Bilberry Oldham East & The Moors Murders ‘Blaydon and Raoul Moat South’ has a nice ring to it... Bingley and Ripper Street Muswell Hill Nilsen Crawley Acid Bath. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jan 8, 2021 16:37:55 GMT
most of Denbighshire is in ancient Powys, actually, unlike any square inch of Radnorshire or Breconshire. It really wasn't. The cantref of Penllyn (i.e. mainly the area around Bala in whart is now Meirionnydd, but stretching down the Vale of Edeirnion down to Corwen) was indeed dominated by Powys until the 12th century, as were the southern parts of Meirionnydd proper around Pennal and Dinas Mawddwy. But most of what is now Denbighshire, and certainly the more populous bits, were in the cantrefi of Dyffryn Clwyd, Rhufoniog, and Tegeingl, and were at various times and in various combinations parts of the Cambro-Norman March or of Gwynedd Is-Conwy. The majority of the historical losses of Powys outside its Montgomeryshire core would now be in Shropshire. |
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