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Post by rcronald on Oct 30, 2022 22:34:51 GMT
It’s no secret that I am personally fond of Lula (although I did lose some respect for him during the campaign), but if he lets the psychopaths in his party (Hofmann) take control and imprison his enemies than a coup should happen. In a democracy, a coup "should" never happen. If Lula acts like a dictator, than it’s probably should (like coups in Turkey). Before the campaign I trusted Lula to act reasonably, but the campaign was so disgusting that I’m not sure that he’ll be able to control himself. |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Oct 30, 2022 22:37:35 GMT
In a democracy, a coup "should" never happen. If Lula acts like a dictator, than it’s probably should (like coups in Turkey). Before the campaign I trusted Lula to act reasonably, but the campaign was so disgusting that I’m not sure that he’ll be able to control himself. Whereas Bolsonaro's government was so wonderful?!?!?! Campaigns are not governments - you live in Israel so know that full well. |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 30, 2022 22:37:50 GMT
Rondônia: Marcos Rocha (União) Alagoas: Paulo Dantas Bahia: Jerônimo Sergipe: Fábio (PSD) São Paulo: Tarcísio (REP) |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 30, 2022 22:39:35 GMT
If Lula acts like a dictator, than it’s probably should (like coups in Turkey). Before the campaign I trusted Lula to act reasonably, but the campaign was so disgusting that I’m not sure that he’ll be able to control himself. Whereas Bolsonaro's government was so wonderful?!?!?! Campaigns are not governments - you live in Israel so know that full well. I just have extreme distrust in practically every petista who is not Lula or is not from Bahia or Acre (where the state parties are very pragmatic). Note: in case you misread me, I’m not advocating a coup at the moment, I’m saying that if Lula is sliding toward authoritarianism (mostly because his party outside of him is barking mad) then the military should intervene. |
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Post by iain on Oct 30, 2022 22:49:07 GMT
Minas Gerais has just flipped to Lula, so it looks like Amapa going for Bolsonaro is the only change from the first round.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 30, 2022 22:49:27 GMT
Governors:  The Left being reduced - apart from [the] Espirito Santo - to the NE (and even there not governing everywhere). |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 30, 2022 22:51:26 GMT
Governors: The Left being reduced - apart from [the] Espirito Santo - to the NE (and even there not governing everywhere). and even then, Azevêdo is much more of a Centre left politician. |
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Post by edgbaston on Oct 30, 2022 22:52:58 GMT
Interesting map
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Post by CatholicLeft on Oct 30, 2022 22:55:22 GMT
Sorry - how is Trudeau in Canada (where they have a major socialist party) and Biden in the USA a left-wing victory? Nonsense. |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 30, 2022 22:58:15 GMT
Sorry - how is Trudeau in Canada (where they have a major socialist party) and Biden in the USA a left-wing victory? Nonsense. I would also consider it offensive to put Lula with Maduro, Lula is a pragmatic Centre-left politician and Maduro is a mad communist. |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 30, 2022 22:59:42 GMT
Sorry - how is Trudeau in Canada (where they have a major socialist party) and Biden in the USA a left-wing victory? Nonsense. Let's just say that the brush used was very broad.  |
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Post by edgbaston on Oct 30, 2022 23:02:47 GMT
In a democracy, a coup "should" never happen. Indeed. The demos should fully suffer the consequences of their votes. Though of course some suffer more than others |
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Post by kevinf on Oct 30, 2022 23:56:16 GMT
I think Lula is going to win by less than 2%. In the words of the late, great, David Penhaligon: "One vote is all it takes". True. And this looks like over a million of them… |
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Post by rockefeller on Oct 31, 2022 2:08:56 GMT
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Post by relique on Oct 31, 2022 7:06:56 GMT
Well, it sounds so much more educated than Western. does it not? Sorry. I forgot about western and assumed the french and the english word were the same... |
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Post by matureleft on Oct 31, 2022 7:12:42 GMT
Has Bolsonaro conceded? He’s been rather silent at least in English-language media.
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 31, 2022 7:14:12 GMT
Well, it sounds so much more educated than Western. does it not? Sorry. I forgot about western and assumed the french and the english word were the same... Occidental is perfectly good English but not quite everyday speech, I guess. |
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Post by rockefeller on Oct 31, 2022 8:35:59 GMT
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 31, 2022 8:49:43 GMT
That's an interesting variant on the one circulating earlier, which showed all of the Americas, not just the "Latin" bits, and did not include a centrist category- everywhere either left or right. The short list of Latin countries considered centrist is interesting. And Emma (bless her) is right- it's a beautiful map. |
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Post by relique on Oct 31, 2022 9:10:07 GMT
Why isn't France yellow or blue on this Map ?
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