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Post by msc on Oct 31, 2022 9:27:18 GMT
That's an interesting variant on the one circulating earlier, which showed all of the Americas, not just the "Latin" bits, and did not include a centrist category- everywhere either left or right. The short list of Latin countries considered centrist is interesting. And Emma (bless her) is right- it's a beautiful map. It looks almost like a reverse map of the usual- everywhere's run by the left except Uruguay!  |
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polupolu
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Post by polupolu on Oct 31, 2022 9:29:28 GMT
Why isn't France yellow or blue on this Map ? Perhaps because it would make the map look less beautiful in the eyes of it's tweeter? |
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 31, 2022 9:55:26 GMT
Why isn't France yellow or blue on this Map ? Perhaps because it would make the map look less beautiful in the eyes of it's tweeter? Actually I think because France isn't considered part of Latin America. It also hasn't coloured in the West Indian islands, Guyana, Surinam or even Haiti, as they aren't seen as part of Latin America. |
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Post by iain on Oct 31, 2022 10:15:13 GMT
Change in Bolsonaro's vote (second round) between 2018 and 2022:  |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 31, 2022 10:17:29 GMT
Perhaps because it would make the map look less beautiful in the eyes of it's tweeter? Actually I think because France isn't considered part of Latin America. It also hasn't coloured in the West Indian islands, Guyana, Surinam or even Haiti, as they aren't seen as part of Latin America. Why would the Dominican republic be considered part of Latin America if Haiti isn't? |
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Post by relique on Oct 31, 2022 10:21:16 GMT
Perhaps because it would make the map look less beautiful in the eyes of it's tweeter? Actually I think because France isn't considered part of Latin America. It also hasn't coloured in the West Indian islands, Guyana, Surinam or even Haiti, as they aren't seen as part of Latin America. We are latin. And part of America. (Yes, I was being facetious) |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 31, 2022 11:01:57 GMT
Actually I think because France isn't considered part of Latin America. It also hasn't coloured in the West Indian islands, Guyana, Surinam or even Haiti, as they aren't seen as part of Latin America. Why would the Dominican republic be considered part of Latin America if Haiti isn't? A point of disagreement with some classing it as Latin American and others not. I think it comes down to the DR being Spanish speaking whereas Haiti speaks French Creole. I think it would be hard to classify Haitian government other than under "ungovernable chaos" |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 31, 2022 11:17:25 GMT
Why would the Dominican republic be considered part of Latin America if Haiti isn't? A point of disagreement with some classing it as Latin American and others not. I think it comes down to the DR being Spanish speaking whereas Haiti speaks French Creole. I think it would be hard to classify Haitian government other than under "ungovernable chaos" Yes, although they should consider that Spanish, Portugese and French are all Latin languages.
Haiti is , as you say, in a class of its own.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 31, 2022 11:26:50 GMT
The scam that is the Latin Grammy considers Spanish and Portuguese to be Latin, but not Italian.
Leading to the bizarre situation whereby Spanish covers of Italian songs, by the same artist, are considered valid for entry. But the Italian original is considered not Latin.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 31, 2022 11:29:09 GMT
The scam that is the Latin Grammy considers Spanish and Portuguese to be Latin, but not Italian. Leading to the bizarre situation whereby Spanish covers of Italian songs, by the same artist, are considered valid for entry. But the Italian original is considered not Latin. Maybe they are just worried that the Italians would win too often. |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 31, 2022 11:44:45 GMT
DeViations of states from national average for the PT-candidates: - State minus Brazil:  - State divided by Brazil:  |
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 31, 2022 11:55:22 GMT
I think Lula is going to win by less than 2%. 98% counted and we're at a 1.8% lead, so a lucky escape for you. Number of blank or void ballots is almost three times Lula's lead. Yes, I know, compulsory voting will do that but it does feel seriously underwhelming. |
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Post by aargauer on Oct 31, 2022 11:55:44 GMT
A point of disagreement with some classing it as Latin American and others not. I think it comes down to the DR being Spanish speaking whereas Haiti speaks French Creole. I think it would be hard to classify Haitian government other than under "ungovernable chaos" Yes, although they should consider that Spanish, Portugese and French are all Latin languages.
Haiti is , as you say, in a class of its own.
Can we add Canada as a Latin American country too then? |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 31, 2022 12:22:03 GMT
Yes, although they should consider that Spanish, Portugese and French are all Latin languages.
Haiti is , as you say, in a class of its own.
Can we add Canada as a Latin American country too then? only a bit of it. |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 31, 2022 14:26:08 GMT
That's an interesting variant on the one circulating earlier, which showed all of the Americas, not just the "Latin" bits, and did not include a centrist category- everywhere either left or right. The short list of Latin countries considered centrist is interesting. And Emma (bless her) is right- it's a beautiful map. It looks almost like a reverse map of the usual- everywhere's run by the left except Uruguay! And of course Paraguay - hasn't that basically been rightwing forever? |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 31, 2022 14:40:07 GMT
It looks almost like a reverse map of the usual- everywhere's run by the left except Uruguay! And of course Paraguay - hasn't that basically been rightwing forever? Paraguay's first left president was, somewhat ironically, a member of the military called Franco (1936-7). Deposed in a coup.
The second, Lugo (2008-12) was an ex priest , deposed in what you could call a consitutional coup and replaced by someone called.... Franco
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Post by edgbaston on Oct 31, 2022 23:57:32 GMT
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 1, 2022 0:09:32 GMT
So, in America we have right "Evangelicals", who try to convert the world to their pseudoChristianity; and left "Catholics", who try to convert their pseudoChristianity to the world. And hopefully a few remaining real Christians, who don't want to have anything to do with the world and its prince. |
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Post by yellowperil on Nov 1, 2022 7:18:09 GMT
I would like to see a version of this for Europe- with the UK presumably in yellow? |
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Post by relique on Nov 1, 2022 7:31:56 GMT
Well there is a south american pope ... |
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