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Post by sanders on Nov 13, 2024 12:25:42 GMT
And a solid shot at holding the seat in 2026 - which might be at risk in a Trump midterm. Ohio’s rightward shift isn’t showing much sign of reversing course so I think it’s a real long shot, however depending on the candidates maybe not entirely impossible. Certainly the Democrats will need to target a couple of longer shots if they want to give regaining the majority a serious go in 2026, with Maine and North Carolina being the only clear targets (and Maine is tough if Susan Collins runs again regardless of the circumstances) There’s a slight issue with Mike DeWine running for a full Senate term in 2026. He only got 49% in the 2022 Ohio Republican gubernatorial primary as an incumbent.
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Post by timmullen on Nov 13, 2024 12:26:28 GMT
I agree and he’s term limited out of the governorship in 26. I wouldn’t be surprised if he did based on an interview he did with a local media outlet in Ohio this year in which he described being a Senator as the most enjoyable job he’d had in politics and that he did still miss parts of it. Which is interesting because the consensus amongst Senators in recent years that are former governors seems to be that they found being a Governor far more enjoyable as they got so much more done compared to the gridlock you need to deal with as being part of DC, Joe Manchin, Angus King and others have spoken about it quite openly. There also seems to have been a drop in Governors going for the Senate in recent years even when term limited or out of office Although Mike DeWine probably remembers the Senate from a time when things weren’t quite as partisan as they are now Maybe different experiences as well, neither Manchin or King had previously served in the House, going directly to the Senate, whereas DeWine was something of the archetypal Washington insider and maybe more used to the sloth like pace of Congress. Mike Braun seems to have gone House-Senate-Governor in Indiana.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 13, 2024 12:33:27 GMT
Hardly an original observation by this point, but a Department of Government Efficiency with two heads is quite unintentionally amusing. Ironically Byzantine imagery.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 13, 2024 12:36:16 GMT
Hardly an original observation by this point, but a Department of Government Efficiency with two heads is quite unintentionally amusing. Creating a quango to look into government efficiency is worthy of a Private Eye piece Imagine an away-day with the US Department of Government Efficiency and the UK Office of Value for Money.
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Post by timmullen on Nov 13, 2024 12:39:22 GMT
Ohio’s rightward shift isn’t showing much sign of reversing course so I think it’s a real long shot, however depending on the candidates maybe not entirely impossible. Certainly the Democrats will need to target a couple of longer shots if they want to give regaining the majority a serious go in 2026, with Maine and North Carolina being the only clear targets (and Maine is tough if Susan Collins runs again regardless of the circumstances) There’s a slight issue with Mike DeWine running for a full Senate term in 2026. He only got 49% in the 2022 Ohio Republican gubernatorial primary as an incumbent. Somewhat misleading though as he was the first to be primaried at all since 1978, and the first to have multiple primary challengers since 1962. I suspect he kopped some backlash for being one of the more sensible Republican governors during Covid and not having the Trump endorsement (that only came post-Primary and many of his campaign team were working for Jim Renacci giving off a subtle hint that he was the chosen one). DeWine did win all but three counties and 13 of the 15 Congressional Districts in the general election, suggesting some popularity amongst the wider electorate.
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Post by manchesterman on Nov 13, 2024 12:42:08 GMT
Sounds..err..interesting??
"Co-leader of the Department of Government Efficiency Vivek Ramaswamy, suggested scrapping federal departments during his presidential campaign - most notably the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
He's also suggested scrapping the Department of Education, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the Internal Revenue Service and the FBI. Last year while running for the Republican presidential nomination, Ramaswamy said he would fire more than 75% of the federal work force."
Whose is that line about destroying your country from within?
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Post by No Offence Alan on Nov 13, 2024 12:53:47 GMT
Hardly an original observation by this point, but a Department of Government Efficiency with two heads is quite unintentionally amusing. But why is there only one Monopolies Commission?
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Post by islington on Nov 13, 2024 13:26:44 GMT
Hardly an original observation by this point, but a Department of Government Efficiency with two heads is quite unintentionally amusing. Creating a quango to look into government efficiency is worthy of a Private Eye piece What's the betting that the salaries will be astronomical, and that one of the efficiency measures they'll adopt for their own organization will be not to employ anyone to check the legitimacy of expense claims?
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Post by uthacalthing on Nov 13, 2024 14:00:11 GMT
If he has not washed his hands then he has not done an honest day's work
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Post by relique on Nov 13, 2024 14:13:14 GMT
Sounds..err..interesting?? "Co-leader of the Department of Government Efficiency Vivek Ramaswamy, suggested scrapping federal departments during his presidential campaign - most notably the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He's also suggested scrapping the Department of Education, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the Internal Revenue Service and the FBI. Last year while running for the Republican presidential nomination, Ramaswamy said he would fire more than 75% of the federal work force." Whose is that line about destroying your country from within? I do believe in the US, the department of education is a joke. A very bitter one, though...
I just say that because of the power of small(-minded) communities and the private sector on this area... There would need to be a complete cultural apocalyptic change (not to mention constitutional, legal and whatever else) for a federal department of education in the US to be deemed effective in any way, unfortunately (for them).
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Post by uthacalthing on Nov 13, 2024 14:53:35 GMT
Sounds..err..interesting?? "Co-leader of the Department of Government Efficiency Vivek Ramaswamy, suggested scrapping federal departments during his presidential campaign - most notably the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He's also suggested scrapping the Department of Education, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the Internal Revenue Service and the FBI. Last year while running for the Republican presidential nomination, Ramaswamy said he would fire more than 75% of the federal work force." Whose is that line about destroying your country from within? Its an opening bid. How would you feel about an incoming Russian President abolishing the FSB or GRU?
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Nov 13, 2024 15:47:50 GMT
Obvious trolling, and repealing the 22nd amendment is never happening, but it would be hilarious to see him run just to get thrashed by Obama.
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 13, 2024 16:29:44 GMT
E-Thot Gabbard as possible Intelligence Director? Farewell Five Eyes, hello Eight (at least) Eyes until it's hello Four Eyes instead...
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 13, 2024 17:13:49 GMT
Sounds..err..interesting?? "Co-leader of the Department of Government Efficiency Vivek Ramaswamy, suggested scrapping federal departments during his presidential campaign - most notably the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He's also suggested scrapping the Department of Education, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the Internal Revenue Service and the FBI. Last year while running for the Republican presidential nomination, Ramaswamy said he would fire more than 75% of the federal work force." Whose is that line about destroying your country from within? He'd probably get a lot of support if he broke up the hopelessly corrupt ATF and sent it responsibilities elsewhere.
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Post by therealriga on Nov 13, 2024 17:32:41 GMT
Here's the actual footage ... He doesn't believe in germs as he cannot see them. In other news, he's an evangelical Christian.
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Post by sanders on Nov 13, 2024 18:11:26 GMT
2020 vs 2024 by income bracket
• Under $30k 2020: Biden+8 🔵 2024: Harris+4 🔵
• $30K–$50K 2020: Biden+12 🔵 2024: Trump+8 🔴
• $50K–$100K 2020: Biden+14 🔵 2024: Trump+5 🔴
• $100K–$200K 2020: Trump+16 🔴 2024: Harris+4 🔵
• Over $200K 2020: Tied 🟣 2024: Harris+6 🔵
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Post by aargauer on Nov 13, 2024 18:20:12 GMT
2020 vs 2024 by income bracket • Under $30k 2020: Biden+8 🔵 2024: Harris+4 🔵 • $30K–$50K 2020: Biden+12 🔵 2024: Trump+8 🔴 • $50K–$100K 2020: Biden+14 🔵 2024: Trump+5 🔴 • $100K–$200K 2020: Trump+16 🔴 2024: Harris+4 🔵 • Over $200K 2020: Tied 🟣 2024: Harris+6 🔵 I'm not sure I believe there's been a huge swing one way in the 50-100 and a huge one in the other for 100-200. Were this true you'd be seeing the democrats flipping wealthy counties. They didn't.
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Post by sanders on Nov 13, 2024 18:40:07 GMT
Two ways of looking at 2024.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Nov 13, 2024 19:25:02 GMT
2020 vs 2024 by income bracket • Under $30k 2020: Biden+8 🔵 2024: Harris+4 🔵 • $30K–$50K 2020: Biden+12 🔵 2024: Trump+8 🔴 • $50K–$100K 2020: Biden+14 🔵 2024: Trump+5 🔴 • $100K–$200K 2020: Trump+16 🔴 2024: Harris+4 🔵 • Over $200K 2020: Tied 🟣 2024: Harris+6 🔵 I'm not sure I believe there's been a huge swing one way in the 50-100 and a huge one in the other for 100-200. Were this true you'd be seeing the democrats flipping wealthy counties. They didn't. Exit polls are dubious at the best of time, for breaking down votes by income they are even worse.
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Post by sanders on Nov 13, 2024 19:51:03 GMT
Two ways of looking at 2024. The trends are actually pretty good. The swing is the problem here.
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