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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 17, 2024 8:44:11 GMT
Norwegian journalist with a powerful quote: 'An assassination attempt by a mentally ill person with an AR-15 is a really bad reason to vote for a man who made it easier for the mentally ill to obtain AR-15s' It is a lazy dumb remark as is usual from a journalist. Trump (whom I dislike and feel quite unfit for office even if 20-years younger) has never made anything 'easier'. The charge could be that he did not make it more difficult when in office? But then neither did a great long line of Democrat presidents either. This is just gormless 'knocking copy'! In Trump's case, he did overturn the previous rules on the mentally-ill having access to firearms. Biden has contributed to the situation himself however, with a bill to give veterans who can't look after themselves greater access to firearms. apnews.com/article/veterans-guns-congress-spending-bill-93919a8f43357152a90b5de9f61c08c1
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Post by right on Jul 17, 2024 9:19:48 GMT
Could Biden step down before, during or shortly after Trump's speech?
It would be putting the short term over the long term, but if he's going anyway why not time the announcement to cause maximum damage to Trump?
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Post by jimboo2017 on Jul 17, 2024 9:55:24 GMT
I mean, he accuses people of having Welfare Cadillacs, a personal insult to me I didn't know that you had a 'Welfare Cadillac' jimboo2017 ! I'll bet you are too lazy to ever wash it though!!That's what grand kids are for
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Post by manchesterman on Jul 17, 2024 10:04:59 GMT
It is a lazy dumb remark as is usual from a journalist. Trump (whom I dislike and feel quite unfit for office even if 20-years younger) has never made anything 'easier'. The charge could be that he did not make it more difficult when in office? But then neither did a great long line of Democrat presidents either. This is just gormless 'knocking copy'! In Trump's case, he did overturn the previous rules on the mentally-ill having access to firearms.Biden has contributed to the situation himself however, with a bill to give veterans who can't look after themselves greater access to firearms. apnews.com/article/veterans-guns-congress-spending-bill-93919a8f43357152a90b5de9f61c08c1Just beat me to it
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Post by manchesterman on Jul 17, 2024 10:06:35 GMT
Kay Burley to Pat McFadden: Your Home Sec called Trump "a Neo-Nazi Sociopath" McFadden: "You should hear what his running mate called him..."
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Post by mboy on Jul 17, 2024 10:55:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 11:05:09 GMT
"They hated Jesus because he told them the truth". Election is 'America's Hitler' vs Abe Simpson at this point.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jul 17, 2024 11:17:03 GMT
In some states, Haley's delegates were still required to vote for her, even though she has dropped out. How would those law's affect Biden's delegates if he were to drop out? He could drop out but some of the delegates, possibly a majority, would still be legally bound to vote for him. What then? I suspect he would have to formally refuse the nomination. Most states only bind their delegates to a candidate still running and/or allow the candidates to "free" their delegates so a majority would not have to vote for Biden. Furthermore I don't think any states bind their delegates indefinitely, i.e they are only bound for the first ballot, or in some cases first and second ballot.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jul 17, 2024 11:23:49 GMT
The official nomination ballot at the Republican Convention: Donald J. Trump: 2,387 Votes cast 'pursuant to the rules and procedures of the convention': 41 Votes not cast: 1 Total 2,429 The votes not cast for Trump were as follow All 19 delegates from the District of Columbia that were bound to Haley 12 delegates from North Carolina that were bound to Haley 6 delegates from Virginia who were bound to Haley 4 delegates from Michigan who were bound to Haley 1 delegate from South Dakota who did not vote
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Post by manchesterman on Jul 17, 2024 11:57:03 GMT
Did the S Dakota delegate refuse to endorse Trump because they were concerned about Trump's desire to have his face carved into Mt Rushmore?
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 17, 2024 12:09:14 GMT
Kay Burley to Pat McFadden: Your Home Sec called Trump "a Neo-Nazi Sociopath" McFadden: "You should hear what his running mate called him..." And there's no answer to that really is there. Hopefully that's at least one stupid and pointless "gotcha" question retired for good.
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Post by right on Jul 17, 2024 12:19:50 GMT
Kay Burley to Pat McFadden: Your Home Sec called Trump "a Neo-Nazi Sociopath" McFadden: "You should hear what his running mate called him..." And there's no answer to that really is there. Hopefully that's at least one stupid and pointless "gotcha" question retired for good. Vance hardly turned on a dime, his conversion was over time. It might be a really good idea for Labour figures including Lammy to say nice things about him. I'd still prefer the senile one to win, but we have to face the reality we're in.
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 17, 2024 12:22:39 GMT
Lammy's comments were also some time ago if we are using that as a justification. And as already said, he won't be that high up Orange Man's grudge list if the worst happens.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 12:35:00 GMT
Never forget that David Lammy is useless and shouldn't be Foreign Secretary. How does he have a Harvard degree? He's barely qualified to man reception there.
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Post by right on Jul 17, 2024 15:16:04 GMT
Lammy's comments were also some time ago if we are using that as a justification. And as already said, he won't be that high up Orange Man's grudge list if the worst happens. He got rather excited about Sadiq Khan's admittedly more recent comments. Lammy is somewhat more consequential and Trump loves to show he's the big man. Big men can forgive if the submission is total enough. I honestly don't mind if we accidentally stop the Atlanticist nonsense, but hoping that we won't because Trump will magically not hold this grudge doesn't strike me as a good strategy.
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Post by right on Jul 17, 2024 15:17:04 GMT
Never forget that David Lammy is useless and shouldn't be Foreign Secretary. How does he have a Harvard degree? He's barely qualified to man reception there. Getting through Harvard isn't for the stupid. Although I can't explain some of the pratfalls such as protesting about white and black smoke.
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Post by jimboo2017 on Jul 17, 2024 15:34:44 GMT
"They hated Jesus because he told them the truth". Election is 'America's Hitler' vs Abe Simpson at this point. FFS, now they are slagging off Abe
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 15:37:17 GMT
"They hated Jesus because he told them the truth". Election is 'America's Hitler' vs Abe Simpson at this point. FFS, now they are slagging off Abe Joe Biden is Grandpa Simpson without the World War II.
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Post by norflondon on Jul 17, 2024 16:17:55 GMT
Good lord, you see some nonsense on here. One is going to struggle to find any politician in the Western world who hasn’t had friuty things to say in response to Donald Trump.
For a man who was called to the Bar at 22 then got a Masters in Law from Harvard at 24 yrs old, & now FS, to call him stupid...well you'd have to be an idiot yrself to do that. As with Diane Abbott seems that no matter how well a black person has done to get where they are and hold their position, their opinions are exaggerated, twisted, conflated, deliberately misunderstood & they are called thick as a result.
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Post by bigfatron on Jul 17, 2024 16:23:37 GMT
Jamie Dimon is the CEO of JP Morgan Chase, and was noted in this very thread as a potential Democratic candidate. He would be an interesting choice for Treasury Secretary. A well-known figure across the Democratic and Republican parties. Obama tried to tap him up for the same role. He was a bit of a dick when I worked for him in the 90's mind...
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