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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Nov 9, 2022 12:57:05 GMT
If so, Trump will react with his customary dignity and support the GOP nominee all the way. If Biden announces he won't stand (which he surely must) then the Democrats will be looking for a candidate with name recognition, so . . . I'm joking. I think. They have a bit of time though, to be fair, to find a candidate. Johnson announced he wouldn't run on the 31st of March 1968 and I doubt Biden would be much hastier.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Nov 9, 2022 13:08:36 GMT
Now, if Trump was candidate, there would be a grudge match and a half after how she was targeted for kidnap and the doubts thrown on this by Trump-supporters. Also, she didn't cover herself in Glory by breaking her own rules by travelling out of state to see her father during the pandemic crisis, and being seen with a group of unmasked people in a bar. Not hurt her in Michigan, might do in a Presidential race. Will anyone give a shit about COVID by 2024?
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Post by neilm on Nov 9, 2022 13:11:06 GMT
Now, if Trump was candidate, there would be a grudge match and a half after how she was targeted for kidnap and the doubts thrown on this by Trump-supporters. Also, she didn't cover herself in Glory by breaking her own rules by travelling out of state to see her father during the pandemic crisis, and being seen with a group of unmasked people in a bar. Not hurt her in Michigan, might do in a Presidential race. Will anyone give a shit about COVID by 2024? Independent SAGE and that loon who hangs around Westminster hassling MPs.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 9, 2022 13:11:52 GMT
Now, if Trump was candidate, there would be a grudge match and a half after how she was targeted for kidnap and the doubts thrown on this by Trump-supporters. Also, she didn't cover herself in Glory by breaking her own rules by travelling out of state to see her father during the pandemic crisis, and being seen with a group of unmasked people in a bar. Not hurt her in Michigan, might do in a Presidential race. Will anyone give a shit about COVID by 2024? It will be about perceived trustworthiness rather than Covid itself. US politics is flaming nasty.
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 9, 2022 13:14:31 GMT
I wouldn't rule out Gavin Newsom.
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Post by stb12 on Nov 9, 2022 13:17:38 GMT
I wouldn't rule out Gavin Newsom. Bit of a transition from a state as highly left wing as California to a US wide race
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 9, 2022 13:20:49 GMT
I wouldn't rule out Gavin Newsom. Bit of a transition from a state as highly left wing as California to a US wide race Yes, but he is known as a moderate, and he comes from a humble background and had a successful career in retail business ( his own small business not corporate) before entering politics. Any Democratic candidate will be socially liberal no matter where they come from.
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 9, 2022 13:43:00 GMT
If there is a credible replacement, President Biden might not run again. Who is credible? Certainly not the VP. Indeed. But let's be honest. Biden cannot run again. Just look at him. He has actually dealt with being POTUS better than I feared he might. But he is 80 in a few weeks, and frankly looks it. No shame in him handing over to someone younger and more vigorous, especially after these much better than expected results for the Dems.
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Post by stb12 on Nov 9, 2022 17:14:15 GMT
I think DeSantis might be better completing his full second term and looking at 2028. These mid-term elections show Trump is a losing influence now and that’s what will happen in 2024
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Post by john07 on Nov 9, 2022 19:57:31 GMT
I wouldn't rule out Gavin Newsom. Bit of a transition from a state as highly left wing as California to a US wide race Left wing? Remember that California was generally a reliable Republican stronghold until comparatively recently. It was the base for Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected Governor as a Republican there until 2011.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Nov 9, 2022 19:59:45 GMT
Bit of a transition from a state as highly left wing as California to a US wide race Left wing? Remember that California was generally a reliable Republican stronghold until comparatively recently. It was the base for Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected Governor as a Republican there until 2011. Schwarzenegger is a special case though, no? He's a global icon and so would naturally appeal across partisan lines. He is also fairly moderate. That's a pretty unique combination.
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Post by peterl on Nov 9, 2022 20:30:15 GMT
My early prediction for 2024: Ron DeSantis gets the GOP nomination, running mate is someone MAGA friendly but not a swivelled eye conspiracy theorist. Biden doesn't run, Kamala Harris is nominated, running mate is a woke extremist like AOC. DeSantis wins by a fair but not overwhelming margin.
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 9, 2022 20:51:58 GMT
My early prediction for 2024: Ron DeSantis gets the GOP nomination, running mate is someone MAGA friendly but not a swivelled eye conspiracy theorist. Biden doesn't run, Kamala Harris is nominated, running mate is a woke extremist like AOC. DeSantis wins by a fair but not overwhelming margin. Kamala Harris is unlikely to be selected, and even less likely to choose AOC as running mate, who is far from a extremist. Tha description applies far more to the homophobic DeSantis.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 9, 2022 21:25:03 GMT
My early prediction for 2024: Ron DeSantis gets the GOP nomination, running mate is someone MAGA friendly but not a swivelled eye conspiracy theorist. Biden doesn't run, Kamala Harris is nominated, running mate is a woke extremist like AOC. DeSantis wins by a fair but not overwhelming margin. I dont believe in gambling, but I am willing to bet you half a dollar that you have the Democrat nominees wrong and that Ron DeSantis, if the nominee, will have a mainstream and moderate VP running mate. DeSantis is clearly on the right and his VP pick will be an attempt to appeal to more moderate Republicans/Independents repulsed by Mr. Trump.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 9, 2022 21:27:35 GMT
Watching Biden's speech: he is clear, looks well and seems empowered by the mid -term results. He shouldn't run next time, but he is not a mentally-incompetent decrepit.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 9, 2022 21:41:17 GMT
Watching this press conference, Biden is fine. He is engaged, is responding and responding in a very intelligent way. Maybe he runs, wins, and, mid-term, passes the presidency to his VP.
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Post by stb12 on Nov 10, 2022 8:15:33 GMT
Bit of a transition from a state as highly left wing as California to a US wide race Left wing? Remember that California was generally a reliable Republican stronghold until comparatively recently. It was the base for Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected Governor as a Republican there until 2011. I know the history but California has changed pretty rapidly since Reagan left office, largely with demographic changes brought about by immigration. The GOP’s continuing lurch to the right and hostility towards immigrants has played a big part in their own downfall but there’s no doubt that it’s now a very left wing state by traditional US standards. And since it’s now clearly dominated by one party there isn’t really much need to appeal to different bases As mentioned above I think Arnie was a special case and probably as moderate a Republican as you can get
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 11:44:41 GMT
My early prediction for 2024: Ron DeSantis gets the GOP nomination, running mate is someone MAGA friendly but not a swivelled eye conspiracy theorist. Biden doesn't run, Kamala Harris is nominated, running mate is a woke extremist like AOC. DeSantis wins by a fair but not overwhelming margin. Kamala Harris is unlikely to be selected, and even less likely to choose AOC as running mate, who is far from a extremist. Tha description applies far more to the homophobic DeSantis. For America, I would hazard a guess that AOC is more extreme for the general population than DeSantis.
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 10, 2022 11:50:33 GMT
Kamala Harris is unlikely to be selected, and even less likely to choose AOC as running mate, who is far from a extremist. Tha description applies far more to the homophobic DeSantis. For America, I would hazard a guess that AOC is more extreme for the general population than DeSantis. Depends which bit of the general population you are talking about.
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Post by markgoodair on Nov 10, 2022 11:53:01 GMT
Democrats gained a majority in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives. It was previously under Republican control. This was a battleground chamber. Democrats gained a majority in the Michigan House and won at least 19 seats in the Senate creating a trifecta for the first time since 1983. The party last controlled the House in 2016 and the Senate in 1983. Democrats maintained control of the Maryland House and Senate. Democrats also gained control of the governorship giving the party a trifecta in the state for the first time since 2014.
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