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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Nov 5, 2022 2:20:04 GMT
I'm not a fan of SNL, but this was pretty funny.
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Post by riccimarsh on Nov 9, 2022 7:01:02 GMT
Anyone else think that, right now, the midterms are looking pretty terrific for DeSantis, and pretty mediocre (at best) for Trump?? Things still can change of course, but the Republican result in Florida is spectacular for sure. Will DeSantis become favourite for the 2024 GOP nomination any time soon??
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Post by aargauer on Nov 9, 2022 8:59:57 GMT
Anyone else think that, right now, the midterms are looking pretty terrific for DeSantis, and pretty mediocre (at best) for Trump?? Things still can change of course, but the Republican result in Florida is spectacular for sure. Will DeSantis become favourite for the 2024 GOP nomination any time soon?? I certainly hope so. Trump needs killing off.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 9, 2022 10:06:53 GMT
Anyone else think that, right now, the midterms are looking pretty terrific for DeSantis, and pretty mediocre (at best) for Trump?? Things still can change of course, but the Republican result in Florida is spectacular for sure. Will DeSantis become favourite for the 2024 GOP nomination any time soon?? I certainly hope so. Trump needs killing off. If so, Trump will react with his customary dignity and support the GOP nominee all the way.
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Post by iang on Nov 9, 2022 10:57:36 GMT
Does that affect Biden? Is Biden more or less likely to run if Trump isn't the opponent?
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 9, 2022 11:02:09 GMT
Does that affect Biden? Is Biden more or less likely to run if Trump isn't the opponent? If there is a credible replacement, President Biden might not run again. Who is credible? Certainly not the VP.
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 9, 2022 11:07:26 GMT
Does that affect Biden? Is Biden more or less likely to run if Trump isn't the opponent? If there is a credible replacement, President Biden might not run again. Who is credible? Certainly not the VP. Indeed. But let's be honest. Biden cannot run again. Just look at him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2022 11:13:48 GMT
If there is a credible replacement, President Biden might not run again. Who is credible? Certainly not the VP. Indeed. But let's be honest. Biden cannot run again. Just look at him. I really doubt he can physically cope with a full-on campaign, let alone mentally. One thing you can say for Trump, he does give off a sense of energy & zeal which Biden simply lacks now.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Nov 9, 2022 11:34:24 GMT
Does that affect Biden? Is Biden more or less likely to run if Trump isn't the opponent? If there is a credible replacement, President Biden might not run again. Who is credible? Certainly not the VP. Gretchen Whitmer?
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Post by neilm on Nov 9, 2022 11:40:46 GMT
Indeed. But let's be honest. Biden cannot run again. Just look at him. I really doubt he can physically cope with a full-on campaign, let alone mentally. One thing you can say for Trump, he does give off a sense of energy & zeal which Biden simply lacks now. Indeed so. He can't label everybody as 'low energy' but it is very easy to stick that to some people.
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Post by rockefeller on Nov 9, 2022 11:42:22 GMT
Does that affect Biden? Is Biden more or less likely to run if Trump isn't the opponent? If there is a credible replacement, President Biden might not run again. Who is credible? Certainly not the VP. Jon Ossoff.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 9, 2022 11:48:12 GMT
If there is a credible replacement, President Biden might not run again. Who is credible? Certainly not the VP. Jon Ossoff. Interesting idea, though Senators don't tend to go from senate to the White House (President Biden was VP first).
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Post by stb12 on Nov 9, 2022 11:49:06 GMT
Interesting idea, though Senators don't tend to go from senate to the White House (President Biden was VP first). Obama?
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 9, 2022 11:55:55 GMT
If there is a credible replacement, President Biden might not run again. Who is credible? Certainly not the VP. Gretchen Whitmer? Now, if Trump was candidate, there would be a grudge match and a half after how she was targeted for kidnap and the doubts thrown on this by Trump-supporters. Also, she didn't cover herself in Glory by breaking her own rules by travelling out of state to see her father during the pandemic crisis, and being seen with a group of unmasked people in a bar. Not hurt her in Michigan, might do in a Presidential race.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 9, 2022 12:00:21 GMT
Interesting idea, though Senators don't tend to go from senate to the White House (President Biden was VP first). Obama? Hence the use of "tend". It is arguable that Obama's candidacy was significant as the first non-white major party presidential candidate. He may be the exception that proves the rule.
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Post by neilm on Nov 9, 2022 12:03:10 GMT
Three senators have moved directly from the Capitol to the White House: Harding, Kennedy and Obama. Two of those died in office. Another 13 by my count served in the senate at some stage.
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Post by stb12 on Nov 9, 2022 12:10:00 GMT
John Kerry and John McCain are two examples of major party nominees that lost but would have been coming directly from the Senate
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Post by neilm on Nov 9, 2022 12:10:11 GMT
I make it 14 sitting senators moving to become vice president, but only three (Truman, Johnson, Nixon) became president, two from the vice presidency.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Nov 9, 2022 12:32:27 GMT
My point is that it is very rare, especially in modern times, for a sitting senator to be nominated by their parties and then elected as President. Only 1 since JFK.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 9, 2022 12:33:31 GMT
I certainly hope so. Trump needs killing off. If so, Trump will react with his customary dignity and support the GOP nominee all the way. If Biden announces he won't stand (which he surely must) then the Democrats will be looking for a candidate with name recognition, so . . . I'm joking. I think.
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