Pre-1973 local election results data

[batman]

I suspect the Tucker H. in Barlow Moor and/or the Tucker S. in Rusholme may be related to me, I had relatives called Tucker in Manchester who were Conservative supporters although not in that part of the city

[batman]

Also note Frank Hatton who later became Labour MP for Exchange, then Moss Side, though not for long as he died in office causing the by-election of 1978 which was won by George Morton for Labour (Morton is still alive though not heard of in politics for many years)

[finsobruce]

Mar 6, 2023 7:20:58 GMT batman said:

Also note Frank Hatton who later became Labour MP for Exchange, then Moss Side, though not for long as he died in office causing the by-election of 1978 which was won by George Morton for Labour (Morton is still alive though not heard of in politics for many years)

Hatton is a member of that elite group who got elected in a by election and then died/resigned etc to cause another by election. Even better he lost Moss Side in the 1970 general, got elected for Exchange in the 1973 by election, Exchange was abolished, and he then got elected for ...Moss Side.

A couple of other things worth noting:

Manchester, Moss Side stayed Tory even in the General Election of 1966

The 1978 Moss Side by election featured Vanessa Redgrave as a candidate (394 votes and finished behind the National Front)

The 1973 Exchange by election and the Feb 1974 General election in Moss Side featured a Marxist-Leninist candidate called Pushkin.

The Tory candidate in Exchange in 1966 was called John Stuart-Mills (almost!)

The Liberal candidate in Exchange in 1935 was George Paish who had written a book in 1904 called "Railways in Britain". He also edited a magazine called "The Statist" . A slightly odd title as it was actually a free trade journal.

The Tory MP for Exchange (1935-40) was Peter Eckersley, Lancashire cricketer and pilot who was killed in 1940 while on service with the RAF causing a wartime byelection, though not an interesting one as the Tory candidate Thomas Hewlett was (perhaps surprisingly) unopposed.

The 1945 Liberal candidate for Exchange was Heric Kenyon, described both as a Manchester businessman and a social worker. In 1945 he was chair of a committee that sent out 1200 letters to servicemen and women from Wilmslow to ask them if they approved of the idea to build a community centre there as a tribute to war service.

[andrewteale]

Mar 6, 2023 7:55:34 GMT finsobruce said:

Mar 6, 2023 7:20:58 GMT batman said:

Also note Frank Hatton who later became Labour MP for Exchange, then Moss Side, though not for long as he died in office causing the by-election of 1978 which was won by George Morton for Labour (Morton is still alive though not heard of in politics for many years)

Hatton is a member of that elite group who got elected in a by election and then died/resigned etc to cause another by election. Even better he lost Moss Side in the 1970 general, got elected for Exchange in the 1973 by election, Exchange was abolished, and he then got elected for ...Moss Side.

A couple of other things worth noting:

Manchester, Moss Side stayed Tory even in the General Election of 1966

The 1978 Moss Side by election featured Vanessa Redgrave as a candidate (394 votes and finished behind the National Front)

The 1973 Exchange by election and the Feb 1974 General election in Moss Side featured a Marxist-Leninist candidate called Pushkin.

The Tory candidate in Exchange in 1966 was called John Stuart-Mills (almost!)

The Liberal candidate in Exchange in 1935 was George Paish who had written a book in 1904 called "Railways in Britain". He also edited a magazine called "The Statist" . A slightly odd title as it was actually a free trade journal.

The Tory MP for Exchange (1935-40) was Peter Eckersley, Lancashire cricketer and pilot who was killed in 1940 while on service with the RAF causing a wartime byelection, though not an interesting one as the Tory candidate Thomas Hewlett was (perhaps surprisingly) unopposed.

The Manchester Moss Side seat of 1966 had Whalley Range and Chorlton-cum-Hardy in it. Despite the name it was a middle-class constituency.

[finsobruce]

Mar 6, 2023 7:59:15 GMT andrewteale said:

Mar 6, 2023 7:55:34 GMT finsobruce said:

Hatton is a member of that elite group who got elected in a by election and then died/resigned etc to cause another by election. Even better he lost Moss Side in the 1970 general, got elected for Exchange in the 1973 by election, Exchange was abolished, and he then got elected for ...Moss Side.

A couple of other things worth noting:

Manchester, Moss Side stayed Tory even in the General Election of 1966

The 1978 Moss Side by election featured Vanessa Redgrave as a candidate (394 votes and finished behind the National Front)

The 1973 Exchange by election and the Feb 1974 General election in Moss Side featured a Marxist-Leninist candidate called Pushkin.

The Tory candidate in Exchange in 1966 was called John Stuart-Mills (almost!)

The Liberal candidate in Exchange in 1935 was George Paish who had written a book in 1904 called "Railways in Britain". He also edited a magazine called "The Statist" . A slightly odd title as it was actually a free trade journal.

The Tory MP for Exchange (1935-40) was Peter Eckersley, Lancashire cricketer and pilot who was killed in 1940 while on service with the RAF causing a wartime byelection, though not an interesting one as the Tory candidate Thomas Hewlett was (perhaps surprisingly) unopposed.

The Manchester Moss Side seat of 1966 had Whalley Range and Chorlton-cum-Hardy in it. Despite the name it was a middle-class constituency.

Indeed it was. The Labour candidate in 1966 was Rex Church, presumably the person who wrote the 2003 Guardian obituary for Sir Peter Pain, who had himself been the Labour candidate at the 1937 Farnham by-election.

[batman]

Mar 6, 2023 7:55:34 GMT finsobruce said:

Mar 6, 2023 7:20:58 GMT batman said:

Also note Frank Hatton who later became Labour MP for Exchange, then Moss Side, though not for long as he died in office causing the by-election of 1978 which was won by George Morton for Labour (Morton is still alive though not heard of in politics for many years)

Hatton is a member of that elite group who got elected in a by election and then died/resigned etc to cause another by election. Even better he lost Moss Side in the 1970 general, got elected for Exchange in the 1973 by election, Exchange was abolished, and he then got elected for ...Moss Side.

A couple of other things worth noting:

Manchester, Moss Side stayed Tory even in the General Election of 1966

The 1978 Moss Side by election featured Vanessa Redgrave as a candidate (394 votes and finished behind the National Front)

The 1973 Exchange by election and the Feb 1974 General election in Moss Side featured a Marxist-Leninist candidate called Pushkin.

The Tory candidate in Exchange in 1966 was called John Stuart-Mills (almost!)

The Liberal candidate in Exchange in 1935 was George Paish who had written a book in 1904 called "Railways in Britain". He also edited a magazine called "The Statist" . A slightly odd title as it was actually a free trade journal.

The Tory MP for Exchange (1935-40) was Peter Eckersley, Lancashire cricketer and pilot who was killed in 1940 while on service with the RAF causing a wartime byelection, though not an interesting one as the Tory candidate Thomas Hewlett was (perhaps surprisingly) unopposed.

The 1945 Liberal candidate for Exchange was Heric Kenyon, described both as a Manchester businessman and a social worker. In 1945 he was chair of a committee that sent out 1200 letters to servicemen and women from Wilmslow to ask them if they approved of the idea to build a community centre there as a tribute to war service.

there must be a few of those. others that come immediately to mind are Derek Enright (Hemsworth, Lab) and Michael Shersby (Uxbridge, C)

[finsobruce]

Mar 6, 2023 8:29:00 GMT batman said:

Mar 6, 2023 7:55:34 GMT finsobruce said:

Hatton is a member of that elite group who got elected in a by election and then died/resigned etc to cause another by election. Even better he lost Moss Side in the 1970 general, got elected for Exchange in the 1973 by election, Exchange was abolished, and he then got elected for ...Moss Side.

A couple of other things worth noting:

Manchester, Moss Side stayed Tory even in the General Election of 1966

The 1978 Moss Side by election featured Vanessa Redgrave as a candidate (394 votes and finished behind the National Front)

The 1973 Exchange by election and the Feb 1974 General election in Moss Side featured a Marxist-Leninist candidate called Pushkin.

The Tory candidate in Exchange in 1966 was called John Stuart-Mills (almost!)

The Liberal candidate in Exchange in 1935 was George Paish who had written a book in 1904 called "Railways in Britain". He also edited a magazine called "The Statist" . A slightly odd title as it was actually a free trade journal.

The Tory MP for Exchange (1935-40) was Peter Eckersley, Lancashire cricketer and pilot who was killed in 1940 while on service with the RAF causing a wartime byelection, though not an interesting one as the Tory candidate Thomas Hewlett was (perhaps surprisingly) unopposed.

The 1945 Liberal candidate for Exchange was Heric Kenyon, described both as a Manchester businessman and a social worker. In 1945 he was chair of a committee that sent out 1200 letters to servicemen and women from Wilmslow to ask them if they approved of the idea to build a community centre there as a tribute to war service.

there must be a few of those. others that come immediately to mind are Derek Enright (Hemsworth, Lab) and Michael Shersby (Uxbridge, C)

Definitely a few, but how few. I imagine that back in the nineteenth century it happened quite frequently, but much less so as we come to the present day, due to improved health etc.

[Pete Whitehead]

Honourable mention of Michael Carr (Bootle) and a dishonourable mention of Denis McShane (Rotherham)

[batman]

there is also of course Bobby Sands. In Northern Ireland there was also of course a rash of by-elections in 1986. Out of the winners of these, Jim Kilfedder, Clifford Forsythe & Harold McCusker all died in office causing further by-elections. Willie McCrea in Mid-Ulster lost his seat in 1997 but returned by winning a by-election, the one caused by Forsythe's death. I believe that McCrea is the only MP to have lost his seat 3 times ever, at least someone has stated that he is.

[finsobruce]

Mar 6, 2023 8:58:32 GMT batman said:

there is also of course Bobby Sands. In Northern Ireland there was also of course a rash of by-elections in 1986. Out of the winners of these, Jim Kilfedder, Clifford Forsythe & Harold McCusker all died in office causing further by-elections. Willie McCrea in Mid-Ulster lost his seat in 1997 but returned by winning a by-election, the one caused by Forsythe's death. I believe that McCrea is the only MP to have lost his seat 3 times ever, at least someone has stated that he is.

"They do things differently there"

[pl]

Mar 6, 2023 8:58:32 GMT batman said:

there is also of course Bobby Sands. In Northern Ireland there was also of course a rash of by-elections in 1986. Out of the winners of these, Jim Kilfedder, Clifford Forsythe & Harold McCusker all died in office causing further by-elections. Willie McCrea in Mid-Ulster lost his seat in 1997 but returned by winning a by-election, the one caused by Forsythe's death. I believe that McCrea is the only MP to have lost his seat 3 times ever, at least someone has stated that he is.

By contrast Galloway has represented three totally different constituencies: Glasgow Hillhead/Kelven, Bethnal Green & Bow and Bradford West.

However he has only ever lost Bradford West. The others he seat hopped from.

[casualobserver]

Jul 28, 2020 6:57:05 GMT finsobruce said:

Jul 28, 2020 1:52:43 GMT bjornhattan said:

It might be the county town of Wiltshire, but that makes it sound rather more bucolic than it actually is - it's no rural idyll! It would have still been very much an industrial town, and rougher than a badgers behind, so I could imagine it electing Communists in the dim and distant past.

the successful candidate was Idris Rose who had been active in the party in Trowbridge since at least the 1940s and in 1956 had been expelled from the local Trades council for "revealing council business to the Communist party and to the local press". Elected as far back as 1962.

And if you go further on a Ms P Rose (presumably the daughter of Idris) was also elected in the same ward (Longfield) in 1969 and 1972, having previously stood in both Seymour and Studley wards and in the previous 'unwarded' elections. In one election there are two P Roses listed, which is either a mistake or possibly father, daughter and mother (or other family member)

Idris Rose first stood for election as a Communist candidate for Trowbridge UDC in 1946. At his fifteenth attempt he was elected in 1961. His wife, Phyllis, eventually joined her husband on the Council, becoming the second Communist Councillor at Trowbridge UDC in 1967.

[casualobserver]

The Communist successes in Trowbridge UDC didn't translate over to West Wiltshire District Council after local government re-organisation. In the 1973 elections for the (then) shadow authorities Trowbridge Ward had 28 candidates for the nine(!) seats in the Ward. Idris Rose came 13th and the other Communist candidate (M Kettlety) came 28th. To the best of my knowledge, no further Communist candidates stood subsequently for West Wiltshire District Council.

[finsobruce]

Jun 19, 2023 7:49:08 GMT casualobserver said:

The Communist successes in Trowbridge UDC didn't translate over to West Wiltshire District Council after local government re-organisation. In the 1973 elections for the (then) shadow authorities Trowbridge Ward had 28 candidates for the nine(!) seats in the Ward. Idris Rose came 13th and the other Communist candidate (M Kettlety) came 28th. To the best of my knowledge, no further Communist candidates stood subsequently for West Wiltshire District Council.

Even though we would all think of Communist politics being the most didactic and dogma driven of the lot, an awful lot of their electoral successes at national and local level were down to candidates with considerable personal votes (Willie Gallacher and Phil Piratin being the most obvious, George Jones in Hornsey in 1945 another notable instance).

[November_Rain]

Jun 19, 2023 7:49:08 GMT casualobserver said:

The Communist successes in Trowbridge UDC didn't translate over to West Wiltshire District Council after local government re-organisation. In the 1973 elections for the (then) shadow authorities Trowbridge Ward had 28 candidates for the nine(!) seats in the Ward. Idris Rose came 13th and the other Communist candidate (M Kettlety) came 28th. To the best of my knowledge, no further Communist candidates stood subsequently for West Wiltshire District Council.

28 Candidates! I bet the ballot paper was very long. 

[hullenedge]

Huddersfield CB (fao edgbaston) Cycle I (1945 to 1970). The pink in 1970 is Cllr Ainley, People's Representative (formerly Labour). There was talk that the Con-Lib agreement was breaking down in 1956 but it held until the early 1960s and perhaps longer in some wards.

[hullenedge]

Hudds CB Cycle II (1946/50/53/56/59/62/65/68/71).

[hullenedge]

Hudds CB Cycle III (1947/51/54/57/60/63/66/69/72).

[The Bishop]

So which year out of 1948 and 1949 did not have any local elections, and why did it move to a three year cycle subsequently?

[hullenedge]

May 9, 2024 12:42:39 GMT The Bishop said:

So which year out of 1948 and 1949 did not have any local elections, and why did it move to a three year cycle subsequently?

The 1948 borough elections were moved to May 1949.