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Post by Clark on Sept 24, 2020 6:37:29 GMT
Latet Ipsos Mori Poll !
SNP: 60% Con: 18% Lab: 12% LD: 4% Green: 3%
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Post by jollyroger93 on Sept 24, 2020 7:02:12 GMT
Latet Ipsos Mori Poll ! SNP: 60% Con: 18% Lab: 12% LD: 4% Green: 3% Those are the sub sample figures of there latest U.K. poll...
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Post by jollyroger93 on Sept 24, 2020 7:02:24 GMT
Latet Ipsos Mori Poll ! SNP: 60% Con: 18% Lab: 12% LD: 4% Green: 3% Those are the sub sample figures of there latest U.K. poll...
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Sept 24, 2020 8:03:54 GMT
And I'm fairly sure that there have been more extreme figures than those in the subsamples too...
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Post by MeirionGwril on Sept 24, 2020 8:05:51 GMT
Latet Ipsos Mori Poll ! SNP: 60% Con: 18% Lab: 12% LD: 4% Green: 3% Those are the sun sample figures of there latest U.K. poll... Huh?
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Sept 24, 2020 8:59:13 GMT
Those are the sun sample figures of there latest U.K. poll... Huh? Sub samples. You know, those things understandably laughed at about a gazillion and thirty nine times before on this place.
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Post by MeirionGwril on Sept 24, 2020 9:05:08 GMT
Sub samples. You know, those things understandably laughed at about a gazillion and thirty nine times before on this place. Okay, but originally it said sun samples - thought it was to do with the so-called "newspaper"
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Post by jollyroger93 on Oct 10, 2020 18:26:41 GMT
New ComRes poll Constituency SNP 50% -1 Conservative 23% -1 Labour 18% +1 Liberal Democrat 6% - Other 2% - Regional list SNP 41% -2 Conservative 21% - Labour 18% +2 Green 11% +1 Liberal Democrat 7% -1 Other 1% -1 Independence Yes 53% -1 No 47% +1 So only minor movements, but an SNP majority so certainly not a foregone conclusion, all to play for in May
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Post by justin124 on Oct 10, 2020 18:59:28 GMT
If Labour is now at 18% for Holyrood elections, I would expect the party to poll 22% - 25% at a Westminster election.
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Post by jollyroger93 on Oct 14, 2020 11:11:41 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 14, 2020 11:23:26 GMT
Hmmm, that at least doesn't pass the smell test.
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Post by jollyroger93 on Oct 14, 2020 11:28:08 GMT
Hmmm, that at least doesn't pass the smell test. It’s a telephone poll, which make it a little more suspicious. Don’t get me wrong this could be right, I fully suspect the SNP to be between 50 and 55% and support for indi to be around 55%. But I recall the last election in 2016 when TNS did only telephone polls and had the SNP up to 60% with Labour on 19% and the conservatives on 14%. Which obviously didn’t quite turn out like that.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Oct 14, 2020 11:33:16 GMT
As has already been said, this is bullshit. The 58% is a bit more believable, as said elsewhere, but this simply isn't.
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Post by afleitch on Oct 14, 2020 11:53:16 GMT
Are we really at that point?
Has it ever occurred to any of our blue tinged Scots that like in December, maybe, just maybe the circles you move in might not be representative of what people actually think, what they want or what issues matter to them?
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Post by jollyroger93 on Oct 14, 2020 11:57:26 GMT
Willie Rennie has been leader of the Lib Dem’s for 9 years and 41% of people don’t know who he is. 😂😂
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Oct 14, 2020 12:00:00 GMT
Are we really at that point? Has it ever occurred to any of our blue tinged Scots that like in December, maybe, just maybe the circles you move in might not be representative of what people actually think, what they want or what issues matter to them? That horse you're on, its a bit too high pal. I'm always pessimistic about Scottish politics. However, I don't think you're at 58% for a number of reasons. The biggest being women. Women don't like Nicola, they think she's too much like a wannabe mother. Also, if their husbands are red hot SNP and aggressive, like a lot of SNP men are, they lie to pollsters about how they're going to vote. They then pop into the booth and vote Tory. I've seen and heard this innumerable times and it's why pollsters overestimate the SNP.
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Post by afleitch on Oct 14, 2020 12:18:27 GMT
Are we really at that point? Has it ever occurred to any of our blue tinged Scots that like in December, maybe, just maybe the circles you move in might not be representative of what people actually think, what they want or what issues matter to them? That horse you're on, its a bit too high pal. I'm always pessimistic about Scottish politics. However, I don't think you're at 58% for a number of reasons. The biggest being women. Women don't like Nicola, they think she's too much like a wannabe mother. Also, if their husbands are red hot SNP and aggressive, like a lot of SNP men are, they lie to pollsters about how they're going to vote. They then pop into the booth and vote Tory. I've seen and heard this innumerable times and it's why pollsters overestimate the SNP. I'm on a high horse to stay above your constant stream of rhetorical pish. Women don't like Nicola? Wanna be mother (real classy call back to her miscarriage there) 'Red hot SNP' men (why thank you, but I'm married) I've 'seen this innumerable times'. How have you seen this? How have you actually seen SNP supporting women in private vote Tory in the ballot box. Please explain how you have literally SEEN this.
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Post by cogload on Oct 14, 2020 12:23:00 GMT
As Tom Harris pointed out on twitter the poll is devastating for the 2014 campaign.
There won't be a vote although there will almost certainly be an SNP majority next year unless something remarkable but that will be it.
In the meantime you can bet your bottom pound that a government which gives no rats about propriety, constitutional or otherwise, will be spending the next year slowly unravelling the devolution settlement.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Oct 14, 2020 12:24:38 GMT
That horse you're on, its a bit too high pal. I'm always pessimistic about Scottish politics. However, I don't think you're at 58% for a number of reasons. The biggest being women. Women don't like Nicola, they think she's too much like a wannabe mother. Also, if their husbands are red hot SNP and aggressive, like a lot of SNP men are, they lie to pollsters about how they're going to vote. They then pop into the booth and vote Tory. I've seen and heard this innumerable times and it's why pollsters overestimate the SNP. I'm on a high horse to stay above your constant stream of rhetorical pish. Women don't like Nicola? Wanna be mother (real classy call back to her miscarriage there) 'Red hot SNP' men (why thank you, but I'm married) I've 'seen this innumerable times'. How have you seen this? How have you actually seen SNP supporting women in private vote Tory in the ballot box. Please explain how you have literally SEEN this. It's not a "call back to her miscarriage", which I'm only vaguely aware of to be frank, it's a reference to her nannying attitude and how many of the women I know, see her. She's also a bit mother in lawish, if I'm honest. I also know this because I've spoken to women with respect, because unlike you I'm not a misogynist, who've told me what they do. They don't tell anyone they vote Tory, but they do. You can rubbish that if you want, I couldn't care less to be blunt, but it's not over till people vote. So, like you always do, get aggressive and repulsively cocky, it actually motivates us, and we'll know where we are on referendum night circa 2026.
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Post by afleitch on Oct 14, 2020 12:35:47 GMT
'I also know this because I've spoken to women with respect, because unlike you I'm not a misogynist.'
You just threw a misogynistic trope at Nicola Sturgeon, then another with the 'I know what women think accurately' then a baseless accusation that I'm a misogynist based on what I assume is my trans inclusionary feminism. Sort your life out.
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