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Post by stepney on Mar 12, 2013 17:44:12 GMT
Repeated ballots where one can change their minds and/or introduce new candidates is not AV. They can't introduce new candidates because all 600,000,000 baptised male Catholics are candidates anyway. The only new candidates will be a few thousand baby Catholics who will be born or baptised in the next few days, but the Cardinals won't know who they are because they are now locked in. While that is perfectly true, it's the sort of comment a deranged purple hippopotamus living on the moon Io would make, because it's completely Roger Irrelevant. It's still true that the Papal election is not AV. Any candidate who had no votes on the first round of an AV election would be eliminated in the first round, and not be able to pick up votes in later ballots. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 12, 2013 17:57:18 GMT
. Where do retired Popes go? What, if anything, do they do? Probably won't be doing Strictly Come Dancing |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2013 18:45:40 GMT
Blimey, how much black smoke do they need? It's billowing out.
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Post by paulypaul on Mar 12, 2013 18:50:51 GMT
Blimey, how much black smoke do they need? It's billowing out. Maybe they're all having a cheeky fag break too? |
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Post by paulypaul on Mar 12, 2013 18:54:10 GMT
. Where do retired Popes go? What, if anything, do they do? Probably won't be doing Strictly Come DancingOh I don't know...he's already done I'm a Pontiff, Get me out of here!  |
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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 12, 2013 19:09:04 GMT
Blimey, how much black smoke do they need? It's billowing out. After the problems last time they're doubtlessly making extra sure there's no confusion this time round. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2013 19:40:23 GMT
It's two thirds of the number of voting Cardinals, plus one. The 'plus one' bit was brought in by Pope Paul VI as a precaution against a Cardinal voting for himself. Not possible to vote for themselves - they have to put their own names on one side of the ballot paper and then their preferred candidate on the other. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 12, 2013 20:40:39 GMT
Do they not understand the concept of a secret ballot?
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Post by Richard Allen on Mar 12, 2013 21:44:15 GMT
It's two thirds of the number of voting Cardinals, plus one. The 'plus one' bit was brought in by Pope Paul VI as a precaution against a Cardinal voting for himself. Not possible to vote for themselves - they have to put their own names on one side of the ballot paper and then their preferred candidate on the other. Really? That is completely contrary to what I have always heard. |
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Post by johnloony on Mar 13, 2013 0:59:52 GMT
It's still true that the Papal election is not AV. Any candidate who had no votes on the first round of an AV election would be eliminated in the first round, and not be able to pick up votes in later ballots. So you're agreeing with me then... |
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 13, 2013 18:10:08 GMT
White smoke
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 13, 2013 18:41:03 GMT
Is that the Vatican Navy marching past now?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 13, 2013 18:41:42 GMT
An awful lot of weaponry on display for the representative of a God of Love!
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Post by irish observer on Mar 13, 2013 19:02:04 GMT
That was a section of the Italian armed forces meeting the Vatican police hence the exchange of anthems. A form of official state recognition.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 19:18:15 GMT
Jorge Mario Bergoglio, of Argentina, is the new Pope.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 19:20:38 GMT
He's 76, will be known as Pope Francis, and is the first ever Latin American Pope.
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Post by irish observer on Mar 13, 2013 19:26:18 GMT
Great day for Argentina. I presume that after four ballots neither the Milanese or main Brazilian could get the two thirds majority and so Bergoglio emerged as the compromise candidate. A great day for Latin America also and I hope this will lead to an increasing influence from this region in future conclaves.
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 13, 2013 19:29:52 GMT
He's also a Jesuit.
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Post by erlend on Mar 13, 2013 19:56:56 GMT
First Jesuit pope. Also a new name. The last Pope to be the first of his name was John Paul I. That was of course to well used names. The last to use a brand new name (never used again) was Pope Lando/Landus who did 7 months from 913-914.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 13, 2013 20:11:45 GMT
Well thats reason alone to be disapponted by the result. |
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