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Post by boogieeck on May 11, 2020 13:56:44 GMT
Gaelic for Tyndrum is Taigh an Droma
I thought everyone would wish to know
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Post by 𝐍𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡 𝐖𝐞𝐬𝐭 on May 11, 2020 22:34:07 GMT
Of course, the signpost at Lands End and the one at John O Groats are further apart. But which has the smaller population? Presumably Land's End, as John O' Groats is an actual village. |
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Post by unrepentantfool on May 25, 2020 17:52:56 GMT
We could - of course - debate endlessly what constitutes a city. And what constitutes a principal station. Doing so would seem to be in the best traditions of this board. Probably best to include in the definition of a principal station that it has a bus station as well as a pub which serves real ale. Not to derail the thread but Reading doesn't count as a principal station on this basis because it doesn't have a bus station. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on May 25, 2020 18:02:28 GMT
Doing so would seem to be in the best traditions of this board. Probably best to include in the definition of a principal station that it has a bus station as well as a pub which serves real ale. Not to derail the thread but Reading doesn't count as a principal station on this basis because it doesn't have a bus station. I'm assuming the post was tongue in cheek. Unless Crewe, York, Birmingham New Street, Manchester Picc, Plymouth etc etc are not principal stations. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on May 25, 2020 18:04:39 GMT
If I could just veer us back to Bridgend and its name in Welsh, I would just like to remind the forum that during both Zombie Reviews, the Boundary Commission for Wales considered the Welsh Language Act very carefully, and concluded that their recommendations must be made with dual names for each constituency, one in English, one in Welsh. I assume (because it wasn't very well explained) that the idea was the chosen name was the 'actual' and the other was the 'official alternative', although how that would have worked, I'm not sure. Anyway, they recommended a constituency with the name(s) "Bridgend and Vale of Glamorgan West ( Pen-y-bont a Gorllewin Bro Morgannwg)" Were Welsh names recommended for any English constituencies where the primary town or city has an alternative Welsh name? "Dinas Caer", "Henfforddy de Swydd Henffordd", or "Manceinion Canolog"? That might seem ridiculous but somewhere like Chester probably has nearly as many first language Welsh speakers as constituencies like this! The figure is 0.5% in the Garden Quarter ward of Chester, and while no figures are given for areas in Wales, Bridgend really won't have very many. Source? Very few (if any) wards in Wales are below 5% knowledge of Welsh. |
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Post by unrepentantfool on May 25, 2020 18:06:20 GMT
Not to derail the thread but Reading doesn't count as a principal station on this basis because it doesn't have a bus station. I'm assuming the post was tongue in cheek. Unless Crewe, York, Birmingham New Street, Manchester Picc, Plymouth etc etc are not principal stations. Maybe, I'm afraid I have a sarcasm bypass 😂 |
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Post by bjornhattan on May 25, 2020 18:16:35 GMT
Were Welsh names recommended for any English constituencies where the primary town or city has an alternative Welsh name? "Dinas Caer", "Henfforddy de Swydd Henffordd", or "Manceinion Canolog"? That might seem ridiculous but somewhere like Chester probably has nearly as many first language Welsh speakers as constituencies like this! The figure is 0.5% in the Garden Quarter ward of Chester, and while no figures are given for areas in Wales, Bridgend really won't have very many. Source? Very few (if any) wards in Wales are below 5% knowledge of Welsh. I hope this link works (if not you can see it on any Census map). There are 5,233 residents aged 3 or above in Garden Quarter, and of these 24 speak Welsh as their main language, which is 0.46%. I accept that knowledge of Welsh might be higher than 5% basically everywhere, but usage as a main language will be lower. There are no figures given in the Census for Welsh as a main language within Welsh - perhaps to avoid the embarrassment of how low those figures would be in many cases. |
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Post by maxque on May 25, 2020 18:20:00 GMT
Were Welsh names recommended for any English constituencies where the primary town or city has an alternative Welsh name? "Dinas Caer", "Henfforddy de Swydd Henffordd", or "Manceinion Canolog"? That might seem ridiculous but somewhere like Chester probably has nearly as many first language Welsh speakers as constituencies like this! The figure is 0.5% in the Garden Quarter ward of Chester, and while no figures are given for areas in Wales, Bridgend really won't have very many. Source? Very few (if any) wards in Wales are below 5% knowledge of Welsh. 9.5% in Bridgend last census. Only Newport (9%), Merthyr Tydfil (8.6%) and Blaenau Gwent (7.6%) are lower. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on May 25, 2020 19:13:18 GMT
Source? Very few (if any) wards in Wales are below 5% knowledge of Welsh. I hope this link works (if not you can see it on any Census map). There are 5,233 residents aged 3 or above in Garden Quarter, and of these 24 speak Welsh as their main language, which is 0.46%. I accept that knowledge of Welsh might be higher than 5% basically everywhere, but usage as a main language will be lower. There are no figures given in the Census for Welsh as a main language within Welsh - perhaps to avoid the embarrassment of how low those figures would be in many cases. Was that from the Census? If so I had completely forgotten there was such a question. |
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Post by bjornhattan on May 25, 2020 19:20:06 GMT
I hope this link works (if not you can see it on any Census map). There are 5,233 residents aged 3 or above in Garden Quarter, and of these 24 speak Welsh as their main language, which is 0.46%. I accept that knowledge of Welsh might be higher than 5% basically everywhere, but usage as a main language will be lower. There are no figures given in the Census for Welsh as a main language within Welsh - perhaps to avoid the embarrassment of how low those figures would be in many cases. Was that from the Census? If so I had completely forgotten there was such a question. Yes. The language categories are "English (English or Welsh if in Wales)", "Welsh, Cymraeg (in England only)", then all the other languages. |
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