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Post by J.G.Harston on May 10, 2020 15:24:42 GMT
The very same. The shop was just to the right of the silver car coming along the main road, before the Tywyn Hill road was widened. And if you don't know that's Ffon Tom you're clearly not local enough !  "This is a local shop for local people. Who want quack remedies."It's like in Whitby knowing where the Tattie Market is. The bus timetable still calls the bus stop there the Tattie Market stop.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on May 10, 2020 15:43:57 GMT
The buses that pass my house used to display Kingsway Post Office as their destination until about 3 years ago. There hasn't been a post office on Kingsway here for at least 15 years, probably far longer, as when we moved here the building was already a private house with little evidence of its former use. So I think we can assume that bus companies are a bit slow on upgrading their maps! And going further off topic, when did Newcastle upon Tyne last have another rail station, apart from its metro stations? I assume it was in the era of British Rail. I think Newcastle may be the largest city in the UK only ever to have had a single principal railway station. Unless, of course, someone else knows different. Probably depends how you define "city". Coventry and Stoke may disagree. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 10, 2020 15:47:02 GMT
Longton Station is definitely in the City of Stoke-on-Trent, though it's not in Stoke. Longport Station is just in the City of Stoke-on-Trent as well.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on May 10, 2020 15:51:11 GMT
Longton Station is definitely in the City of Stoke-on-Trent, though it's not in Stoke. Longport Station is just in the City of Stoke-on-Trent as well. Yeah, but on those grounds, Manors is in Newcastle. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on May 10, 2020 16:21:21 GMT
Longton Station is definitely in the City of Stoke-on-Trent, though it's not in Stoke. Longport Station is just in the City of Stoke-on-Trent as well. Yeah, but on those grounds, Manors is in Newcastle. Yes. The point I was making was that most major cities have (or had) more than one principal station. Manchester had 4; Liverpool 3; Birmingham 2/3; Leeds 2; Nottingham 2; Chester 2 etc etc I'm assuming Newcastle is larger than Coventry (which is a good shout). I suppose Bristol is another good example. We could - of course - debate endlessly what constitutes a city. And what constitutes a principal station. |
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Post by pl on May 10, 2020 16:50:16 GMT
We could - of course - debate endlessly what constitutes a city. And what constitutes a principal station. Doing so would seem to be in the best traditions of this board. Probably best to include in the definition of a principal station that it has a bus station as well as a pub which serves real ale. |
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Post by yellowperil on May 10, 2020 16:55:57 GMT
Yeah, but on those grounds, Manors is in Newcastle. Yes. The point I was making was that most major cities have (or had) more than one principal station. Manchester had 4; Liverpool 3; Birmingham 2/3; Leeds 2; Nottingham 2; Chester 2 etc etc I'm assuming Newcastle is larger than Coventry (which is a good shout). I suppose Bristol is another good example. We could - of course - debate endlessly what constitutes a city. And what constitutes a principal station. Ah, as far as I'm concerned that station is Temple Meads. Only if I think long and hard would I concede it probably can be called Bristol Temple Meads. It's certainly never just Bristol. But it is certainly Bristol's only principal station and on most counts Bristol is larger either the Newcastle and Coventry. |
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Post by Penddu on May 10, 2020 18:31:59 GMT
...apart from Parkway...
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on May 10, 2020 19:19:32 GMT
Yes. The point I was making was that most major cities have (or had) more than one principal station. Manchester had 4; Liverpool 3; Birmingham 2/3; Leeds 2; Nottingham 2; Chester 2 etc etc I'm assuming Newcastle is larger than Coventry (which is a good shout). I suppose Bristol is another good example. We could - of course - debate endlessly what constitutes a city. And what constitutes a principal station. Ah, as far as I'm concerned that station is Temple Meads. Only if I think long and hard would I concede it probably can be called Bristol Temple Meads. It's certainly never just Bristol. But it is certainly Bristol's only principal station and on most counts Bristol is larger either the Newcastle and Coventry. There used to be St Philip's as well. More sensibly located for commuter traffic. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on May 10, 2020 19:24:54 GMT
Ah, as far as I'm concerned that station is Temple Meads. Only if I think long and hard would I concede it probably can be called Bristol Temple Meads. It's certainly never just Bristol. But it is certainly Bristol's only principal station and on most counts Bristol is larger either the Newcastle and Coventry. There used to be St Philip's as well. More sensibly located for commuter traffic. Yes, closed so long ago I'd forgotten it! |
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Post by gwynthegriff on May 10, 2020 19:26:10 GMT
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Post by Foggy on May 10, 2020 22:11:18 GMT
The very same. The shop was just to the right of the silver car coming along the main road, before the Tywyn Hill road was widened. And if you don't know that's Ffon Tom you're clearly not local enough ! "This is a local shop for local people. Who want quack remedies."I was once turned away from that very chip shop for being an outsider! I was told that it was closed whilst the owner was clearly in the process of serving and chatting with the regulars. Not caught a bus from that particular stop, though, but I did get the number 5 back to Bangor from the flyover stop round the corner from there on one occasion. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 10, 2020 23:02:45 GMT
Probably Lympstone - Lympstone Village and Lympstone Commando stations. Population under 2,000.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on May 10, 2020 23:21:10 GMT
I wonder what the smallest independent town (as opposed to area of a town or city) with 2 railway stations named after it is. Falkirk? Newark? Almost certainly Tyndrum (population 167). |
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Post by J.G.Harston on May 10, 2020 23:49:32 GMT
I wonder what the smallest independent town (as opposed to area of a town or city) with 2 railway stations named after it is. Falkirk? Newark? Whitby Town and Whitby West Cliff? Population 15,000. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on May 10, 2020 23:56:31 GMT
Whitby Town and Whitby West Cliff? Population 15,000. keep up please By what definition is Tyndrum (population 167) a town? |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 0:02:51 GMT
If I could just veer us back to Bridgend and its name in Welsh, I would just like to remind the forum that during both Zombie Reviews, the Boundary Commission for Wales considered the Welsh Language Act very carefully, and concluded that their recommendations must be made with dual names for each constituency, one in English, one in Welsh. I assume (because it wasn't very well explained) that the idea was the chosen name was the 'actual' and the other was the 'official alternative', although how that would have worked, I'm not sure.
Anyway, they recommended a constituency with the name(s) "Bridgend and Vale of Glamorgan West (Pen-y-bont a Gorllewin Bro Morgannwg)"
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Post by bjornhattan on May 11, 2020 0:17:26 GMT
If I could just veer us back to Bridgend and its name in Welsh, I would just like to remind the forum that during both Zombie Reviews, the Boundary Commission for Wales considered the Welsh Language Act very carefully, and concluded that their recommendations must be made with dual names for each constituency, one in English, one in Welsh. I assume (because it wasn't very well explained) that the idea was the chosen name was the 'actual' and the other was the 'official alternative', although how that would have worked, I'm not sure. Anyway, they recommended a constituency with the name(s) "Bridgend and Vale of Glamorgan West ( Pen-y-bont a Gorllewin Bro Morgannwg)" Were Welsh names recommended for any English constituencies where the primary town or city has an alternative Welsh name? "Dinas Caer", "Henfforddy de Swydd Henffordd", or "Manceinion Canolog"? That might seem ridiculous but somewhere like Chester probably has nearly as many first language Welsh speakers as constituencies like this! The figure is 0.5% in the Garden Quarter ward of Chester, and while no figures are given for areas in Wales, Bridgend really won't have very many. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 0:23:10 GMT
If I could just veer us back to Bridgend and its name in Welsh, I would just like to remind the forum that during both Zombie Reviews, the Boundary Commission for Wales considered the Welsh Language Act very carefully, and concluded that their recommendations must be made with dual names for each constituency, one in English, one in Welsh. I assume (because it wasn't very well explained) that the idea was the chosen name was the 'actual' and the other was the 'official alternative', although how that would have worked, I'm not sure. Anyway, they recommended a constituency with the name(s) "Bridgend and Vale of Glamorgan West ( Pen-y-bont a Gorllewin Bro Morgannwg)" Were Welsh names recommended for any English constituencies where the primary town or city has an alternative Welsh name? "Dinas Caer", "Henfforddy de Swydd Henffordd", or "Manceinion Canolog"? That might seem ridiculous but somewhere like Chester probably has nearly as many first language Welsh speakers as constituencies like this! The figure is 0.5% in the Garden Quarter ward of Chester, and while no figures are given for areas in Wales, Bridgend really won't have very many. The English Boundary Commission has no such policy on bilingual names. So, no. |
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Post by yellowperil on May 11, 2020 6:00:11 GMT
Veering back again...I think the word in the question that some of you are missing is "town". I don't see how you can define Lympstone or Tyndrum as a town. Lympstone is a small to medium sized village (Iknow it well)with a military establishment up the road using the same name and they can have separate stations but I really don't see how hat can be a correct answer to the question, and as for Tyndrum- how can you possibly categorise a place with 167 souls as a town? Now Whitby, yes, that's a proper town.I'm with JG.
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