By-elections - 7 March 2013

[Deleted]

well looking at the voting records of him at the council, one in which he along with another indy hold a lot of the balance of power. BEcause of the deep issues in Walsall (you must know the history) he can not support anything that helps out labour.

[slicesofjim]

I'm beginning to see the sort of slipperiness Armchair Critic encountered a week or so ago... What specific matters has he (wrongly) sided with the Tories? Or is it just that nasty Pete Smith doesn't vote the way the Labour group wants, because Labour are proposing things contrary to the interests of the people he represents?

[Deleted]

because there is a real politik that goes on. A politik that means not voting for a labour motion will mean a vote for the tories and he certainly was not voted in to represent them.

It is his call and he has to live with it, no deals with Labour and him can ever be done so we get on with it.

[slicesofjim]

So no specifics then.

[Pete Whitehead]

lol

[paulypaul]

Although he may be across the political divide from me (to put it mildly!), I do admire newly elected Cllr Joe Robinson (TUSC) for setting out his political objectives, which include more financial support for the local community group, or as I like to call it 'Call it BigSociety II'

So refreshing to see someone young, passionate about his community, with electoral success behind him, trying to make life better for the people he now represents.

maltbyblogger.com/2013/03/08/new-councillor-for-maltby-town-council-joe-robinson-speaks-to-maltbyblogger/

[Deleted]

yes, he voted against a Labour budget amendment to reduce the number of senior managers, is that official TUSC policy then ?

[marksenior]

Mar 9, 2013 20:56:22 GMT @ianrobo said:

Mar 8, 2013 23:29:11 GMT Dan said:

Pete Smith is not quite so straightforward. Despite being a long time Democratic Labour Party member, he was elected in the Blakenall ward with no description, although is listed on the council's website as Democratic Labour. I don't know if the DLP are affiliated with TUSC.

the DLP no longer exists, seeing him parade around with their 1980 rosettes in may was funny ..

Also if he was part of TUSC why has he voted along to keep tory policies - answer he hates labour more than the tories thus allows policies in he should stop.

Yes no love lost for him

There are many Labour councils which have wrung their hands , wept crocodile tears and then voted in cuts in general support of Tory policies . I guess you think all their councillors should be thrown out of the Labour party .

[Deleted]

you want councils to set illegal budgets then, course not, we have to work within the constraints of what is imposed.

But within those constraints there are clear policy differences.

[greenchristian]

Mar 11, 2013 20:09:08 GMT @ianrobo said:

you want councils to set illegal budgets then, course not, we have to work within the constraints of what is imposed.

But within those constraints there are clear policy differences.

Such as?

[Deleted]

Mar 11, 2013 20:34:05 GMT greenchristian said:

Mar 11, 2013 20:09:08 GMT @ianrobo said:

you want councils to set illegal budgets then, course not, we have to work within the constraints of what is imposed.

But within those constraints there are clear policy differences.

Such as?

Oh don't ask specifics again....

[Deleted]

Mar 11, 2013 20:34:05 GMT greenchristian said:

Mar 11, 2013 20:09:08 GMT @ianrobo said:

you want councils to set illegal budgets then, course not, we have to work within the constraints of what is imposed.

But within those constraints there are clear policy differences.

Such as?

all bout the priorties you put on services, for example Sandwell in 2009 guessed what was coming and started to make plans then. Hence now the cuts fell on a lot of managers, they are even building three new leisure centres to replace older more inefficent ones.

Now compare to Birmingham in particular, need is hardly greater there but the previous LD/Con run council put decisions off that had to be made and left the council now with a big hole.

Competent leadership is the key.

[slicesofjim]

Mar 11, 2013 11:39:58 GMT @ianrobo said:

yes, he voted against a Labour budget amendment to reduce the number of senior managers, is that official TUSC policy then ?

Is that really the best you can do? TUSC-supporting councillor votes against a cut? But he voted differently to the Labour group, so clearly he's a wicked, wicked, man. It pains me to say this, but while I vehemently disagree with so much of the (often obnoxious) opinions of the Tory posters on this forum, they generally display some degree of intellectual honesty which is completely alien to you.

[marksenior]

Mar 11, 2013 20:09:08 GMT @ianrobo said:

you want councils to set illegal budgets then, course not, we have to work within the constraints of what is imposed.

But within those constraints there are clear policy differences.

Nope I want something much more difficult than that , simply for you to stop your ludicrous partisanship such as condemning a left wing socialist councillor such as the one concerned whilst making excuses for Labour councillors who are taking the same difficult budget decisions . If you don't want to take them then don't take control of a council .

[East Anglian Lefty]

Mar 11, 2013 19:30:01 GMT marksenior said:

Mar 9, 2013 20:56:22 GMT @ianrobo said:

the DLP no longer exists, seeing him parade around with their 1980 rosettes in may was funny ..

Also if he was part of TUSC why has he voted along to keep tory policies - answer he hates labour more than the tories thus allows policies in he should stop.

Yes no love lost for him

There are many Labour councils which have wrung their hands , wept crocodile tears and then voted in cuts in general support of Tory policies . I guess you think all their councillors should be thrown out of the Labour party .

No, because your misrepresentation seems to be hitting new lows.