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Post by paulypaul on Mar 8, 2013 12:31:05 GMT
So a good week for TUSC and not such a good week for the SNP?
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Post by greatkingrat on Mar 8, 2013 12:43:11 GMT
This may mean that the Ind+Con coalition now has a majority in Moray, rather than the current 50% of seats (assuming the new councillor joins the Independent group).
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 8, 2013 12:44:05 GMT
Conservative + Green +Ind H+ Ind T = 1,294 votes. - 535 (41%) ultimately transferred to Ind C - 172 (13%) to SNP - 587 (45%) not transferred. This lack of transfers appears to be getting higher rather than lower as we were assured it would when the system was first introduced. Ind C was elected with less than half the votes, 48.6% of valid ones. But that 45% will break down into some who expressed other preferences, but not for the final two, some who knew they could express other preferences but exercised their democratic right not to and probably only a small minority who thought they could only vote for one person, so I don't really see this as a problem. The support of over 50% argument wasn't even one of my favoured ones for AV. It's clearly not an argument for STV where the by-elections only end up being AV by default. |
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Post by paulypaul on Mar 8, 2013 14:28:19 GMT
RESULT: Rushmere St Andrew PC
Michael Gilson, Ind 246
Bernadette Smith, Ind 255
Peter Tarling, Ind 287 (E)
Electorate 5078
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 14:33:45 GMT
RESULT: Maltby Town Council Joe Robinson, TUSC 303 - ELECTED Jeanette Mallinder, Independent 201 3117 Electors "What's that you say, Mr Robinson? Raise the flags and throw the bankers away? Hey, hey!" |
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Post by Philip Davies on Mar 8, 2013 16:37:26 GMT
Louise Boors was the UKIP candidate for PCC in Cheshire. At the time she was described as a former councillor - presumably for the Conservatives? It is Bours. There was a Louise Beard as councillor for Buglawton so I guess it is the same lady. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 8, 2013 16:49:01 GMT
Buglawton is on the opposite side of Congleton but it seems likely.
Congleton West is the ward I grew up in and lived in from 1983 to 1995 (excepting when at University). Never would have had it down as a UKIP area.
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Post by AdminSTB on Mar 8, 2013 20:42:09 GMT
The Cheshire Architect came third in the by-election? Are we to assume that all architects will now move to the right, and assume a more anti-immigration stance?  I thought that party registrations still applied to town/parish councils, and that's why you have the minor party option in England. Or can you say Independent (Anything) and that's okay? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 20:53:29 GMT
CHESHIRE ARCHITECTS, WINNING HERE
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Post by paulypaul on Mar 8, 2013 20:58:50 GMT
CHESHIRE ARCHITECTS, WINNING HERE Their manifesto sounds too sketchy to me.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 21:13:14 GMT
CHESHIRE ARCHITECTS, WINNING HERE Their manifesto sounds too sketchy to me. Something to build on though. |
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Post by paulypaul on Mar 8, 2013 21:21:28 GMT
Their manifesto sounds too sketchy to me. Something to build on though. That sounds like the plan! |
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Post by middleenglander on Mar 8, 2013 22:49:25 GMT
Moray UA, Heldon & Laich - Independent gain from SNP | Party | 2013 vote | 2013 share | since 2012 | since 2007 | | Independent Cowe | 972 | 31.4% | | | | SNP | 833 | 26.9% | -10.1% | -4.1% | | Conservative | 473 | 15.3% | -2.0% | +3.9% | | Independent Traynor | 418 | 13.5% | | | | Green | 228 | 7.4% | +0.8% | from nowhere | | Independent Hamilton | 175 | 5.6% | | | | (Total Independents) | (1,565) | (50.5%) | +11.3% | -7.2% | | Total votes | 3,099 | | -886 | -2,210 |
Swing SNP to Independent some 10% since May 2012 - although 3 different Independents in both by-election and 2012 but 8 in total for 2007
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Post by Dan on Mar 8, 2013 23:29:11 GMT
Both Michael Lavalette (Preston) and Pete Smith (Walsall) sit as Independents, but are TUSC supporters. Pete Smith is not quite so straightforward. Despite being a long time Democratic Labour Party member, he was elected in the Blakenall ward with no description, although is listed on the council's website as Democratic Labour. I don't know if the DLP are affiliated with TUSC. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 8, 2013 23:31:24 GMT
I think this calls for a celebration! Has the Revolution started? It's already being dubbed the Maltby Spring! |
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Post by Adam on Mar 9, 2013 4:46:12 GMT
The Cheshire Architect came third in the by-election? Are we to assume that all architects will now move to the right, and assume a more anti-immigration stance? I thought that party registrations still applied to town/parish councils, and that's why you have the minor party option in England. Or can you say Independent (Anything) and that's okay? Yes, but the previous rule still applies in parish council elections, i.e you can also use any description of up to six words (as long as this is not likely to be confused with that of a registered political party). See sections 2.19 to 2.13 of this document and in particular: |
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Post by paulypaul on Mar 9, 2013 12:04:32 GMT
Has the Revolution started? It's already being dubbed the Maltby Spring! Maltby today. Tomorrow, the world! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2013 20:56:22 GMT
Both Michael Lavalette (Preston) and Pete Smith (Walsall) sit as Independents, but are TUSC supporters. Pete Smith is not quite so straightforward. Despite being a long time Democratic Labour Party member, he was elected in the Blakenall ward with no description, although is listed on the council's website as Democratic Labour. I don't know if the DLP are affiliated with TUSC. the DLP no longer exists, seeing him parade around with their 1980 rosettes in may was funny .. Also if he was part of TUSC why has he voted along to keep tory policies - answer he hates labour more than the tories thus allows policies in he should stop. Yes no love lost for him |
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Post by slicesofjim on Mar 10, 2013 20:26:35 GMT
Well, I had a good chat with Pete at the TUSC conference in September last year, and he spoke from the platform, so actually it is fairly straightforward, he's a TUSC supporter. Before it was wound up, the DLP was part of TUSC. Please explain your comment about 'voting to keep Tory policies'?
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