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Post by michael2019 on Apr 4, 2020 14:24:56 GMT
So in theory at least it would be possible for one party to play silly so-and-so's if they dominate the council and turf their opponents off the council if it hadn't met for six months etc! Although it might not go down well with the electorate! In theory, but the new provisions for remote meetings say that councillors are counted as 'attending' if they are doing so remotely. And obviously there aren't any byelections at the moment. Thanks. I hadn't caught up that they could meet remotely.
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Post by tonygreaves on Apr 5, 2020 13:40:26 GMT
The six month rule has been suspended (or rather, I think reset).
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 5, 2020 13:43:34 GMT
The six month rule has been suspended. Well, no it hasn't. Section 85 of the Local Government Act 1972 still applies.
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Post by mike on Apr 5, 2020 18:20:51 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 6, 2020 11:57:03 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Apr 6, 2020 12:49:10 GMT
So how will you format the previews Tsunami Thursday andrewteale ?
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Post by andrea on Apr 6, 2020 12:59:46 GMT
Geoff Lewis (Sandwell, Friar Park) has died according to Cllr Ahmad Bostan.
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Post by greenhert on Apr 6, 2020 13:31:39 GMT
This delay in by-elections is rather excessive, especially since the Coronavirus Act measures may only last until the end of September.
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Post by Gracie L on Apr 6, 2020 16:12:45 GMT
Sad to hear that Councillor Shabnum Sadiq. Party: Labour. Ward: Wexham Lea - Slough Council has passed away according to Deputy Leader, Cllr Sabia Hussain. A really pleasant lady and fairly young - such a shame
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 6, 2020 18:08:19 GMT
So how will you format the previews Tsunami Thursday andrewteale ? If Tsunami Thursday is 6 May 2021 as scheduled, you'll all have more important things to worry about.
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Post by mike on Apr 6, 2020 19:44:41 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 6, 2020 22:19:00 GMT
This is, I think, the current state of play with vacancies. Errors are probable. In the case of the Welsh and Scottish vacancies I have assumed that the devolved governments will make orders to the same effect as the MHCLG order today; this may of course be a wrong assumption.
(A) By-elections to be held on 6th May 2021 (41 for 43 seats): Aberdeen, Kincorth/Nigg/Cove Barrow-in-Furness, Roosecote Birmingham, Oscott Blaby, Stanton and Flamville Bournemouth Christchurch and Poole, Common Bridgend, Nant-y-moel Canterbury, Westgate Chelmsford, Moulsham Lodge Cheshire East, Crewe West Clackmannanshire, Clackmannanshire East Copeland, Whitehaven Central Denbighshire, Corwen East Staffordshire, Eton Park (2) Edinburgh, Craigentinny/Duddingston Forest of Dean, Berry Hill Gravesham, Westcourt Greenwich, Glyndon Highland, Aird and Loch Ness Leicester, North Evington Lewisham, Catford South Lewisham, Sydenham Mid Sussex, Copthorne and Worth Newport, Victoria North Lanarkshire, Thorniewood North Lincolnshire, Ashby North Lincolnshire, Broughton and Appleby (2) North West Leicestershire, Worthington and Breedon
Northumberland, Alnwick Perth and Kinross, Perth City North Perth and Kinross, Perth City South Redcar and Cleveland, Longbeck Rhondda Cynon Taf, Hawthorn Scottish Borders, Leaderdale and Melrose South Derbyshire, Hilton South Ribble, St Ambrose Surrey Heath, Bagshot Swansea, Castle Telford and Wrekin, Donnington Test Valley, Chilworth Nursling and Rownhams Thanet, Newington Waltham Forest, Hatch Lane West Lothian, Livingston South
(B) Double vacancy elections on 6th May 2021 (12): Amber Valley, Somercotes Crawley, Ifield Gateshead, Birtley Knowsley, Halewood South Newcastle upon Tyne, Byker Rochford, Hockley and Ashingdon Rushmoor, North Town Sandwell, Wednesbury South Southend-on-Sea, St Luke's Trafford, Priory Tunbridge Wells, Pantiles and St Mark's
(C) By-elections which will not be held as the councillor's term ends in May 2021 (23): Adur, Eastbrook Amber Valley, Kilburn Denby and Holbrook Bolton, Westhoughton North and Chew Moor Cambridgeshire Police and Crime Commissioner Cherwell, Kidlington West Chorley, Chorley North West Cornwall, St Mewan Durham Police and Crime Commissioner Essex CC, Rochford North Gloucestershire CC, Winchcombe and Woodmancote Hartlepool, Manor House Hyndburn, Barnfield Maidstone, Boxley Milton Keynes, Tattenhoe Newcastle upon Tyne, Blakelaw Newcastle upon Tyne, Lemington Northumberland, Alnwick Rushmoor, Fernhill Salford, Kersal Sandwell, Friar Park Sheffield, Broomhill and Sharrow Vale Sheffield, Manor Castle Sheffield, Walkley Slough, Wexham Lea Sunderland, Houghton Swindon, Rodbourne Cheney Trafford, Village Wakefield, Altofts and Whitwood Wiltshire, By Brook Wirral, Moreton West and Saughall Massie Wolverhampton, Bushbury South and Low Hill
I am not convinced that the MHCLG order applies to the City of London Corporation.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 6, 2020 22:23:41 GMT
I am not convinced that the MHCLG order applies to the City of London Corporation. Interesting point. I don't think it does either, because London Corporation elections are under a unique statute. I wonder about Aldermanic elections, though byelections may be stopped just by not being called. I will ask a friendly Common Councilman.
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 6, 2020 22:59:25 GMT
I am not convinced that the MHCLG order applies to the City of London Corporation. Interesting point. I don't think it does either, because London Corporation elections are under a unique statute. I wonder about Aldermanic elections, though byelections may be stopped just by not being called. I will ask a friendly Common Councilman. Unless anybody is due to hit the retirement age (I haven't checked that), there are only two Aldermanic elections due in the next year in the normal course: in Cripplegate (David Graves) and Bishopsgate (Baroness Scotland). Alison Gowman sought re-election last year a year early, presumably as she's in line for the Lord Mayoralty very soon.
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 6, 2020 23:14:25 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 7, 2020 10:34:10 GMT
Interesting point. I don't think it does either, because London Corporation elections are under a unique statute. I wonder about Aldermanic elections, though byelections may be stopped just by not being called. I will ask a friendly Common Councilman. Unless anybody is due to hit the retirement age (I haven't checked that), there are only two Aldermanic elections due in the next year in the normal course: in Cripplegate (David Graves) and Bishopsgate (Baroness Scotland). Alison Gowman sought re-election last year a year early, presumably as she's in line for the Lord Mayoralty very soon. My source on the Common Council had also picked up on the Cripplegate Alderman issue - due to happen in June, which must be looking a bit difficult. Normally Aldermen surrender office a time before their term actually ends, to make the arrangements easier. No-one knows if it is possible to delay the election. If there is a sitting Alderman, they have been cancelling the Wardmotes that were due - the Aldermen are in charge of the arrangements there so that's not a problem. Though apparently the age rule is not a problem - it's a limit of 70 on the age of someone elected as Alderman, not holding office, so you could be elected aged 69 years 11 months and then serve for the full six years. No Common Council byelections are pending or anticipated, but the full council elections are still on for March 2021 - everyone assuming the problem will be over by the time they start up. Some surprise that the Remembrancer didn't intervene to make sure the City was included. "The ways of the City are indeed mysterious."
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Post by ideal4radio on Apr 7, 2020 10:39:10 GMT
One obvious implication of all these deferred by-elections, coupled with the postponed round of local elections that were due this May, is that there will be more of a chance that the control of Council's will be won or lost. Some of the elections are normally for a third of Councillors, but in May 2021, they will involve two thirds of the seats. Add in a bumper crop of by-elections and there's more chance of a change ....
Edit: Correction, I'd got my years out, it's the County Elections this year in many areas ..
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 7, 2020 10:48:02 GMT
This is, I think, the current state of play with vacancies. Errors are probable. In the case of the Welsh and Scottish vacancies I have assumed that the devolved governments will make orders to the same effect as the MHCLG order today; this may of course be a wrong assumption.Edinburgh, Craigentinny/Duddingston There certainly seems to be still talk/rumours of this by-election possibly happening in November, so possible the Scottish Government might hold off pushing everything back to next May for a while at least...
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 7, 2020 10:55:21 GMT
One obvious implication of all these deferred by-elections, coupled with the postponed round of local elections that were due this May, is that there will be more of a chance that the control of Council's will be won or lost. Some of the elections are normally for a third of Councillors, but in May 2021, they will involve two thirds of the seats. Add in a bumper crop of by-elections and there's more chance of a change .... As next year's elections were generally the counties or ex-county unitaries with a few other councils on all-out cycles, I don't think there are any councils which will have two thirds of seats ups, but a lot of areas will have simultaneous county and district elections...
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Post by mike on Apr 7, 2020 11:52:52 GMT
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