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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 25, 2020 14:10:01 GMT
At the suggestion of ricmk: A vacancy on Waltham Forest due to the death of Geoff Walker (C, Hatch Lane):
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Post by andrewp on Mar 25, 2020 14:17:00 GMT
I’ll bring an updated list across to this thread later
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Post by london(ex)tory on Mar 25, 2020 19:54:38 GMT
At the suggestion of ricmk: A vacancy on Waltham Forest due to the death of Geoff Walker (C, Hatch Lane): Perhaps some of you lot might take covid19 a bit more seriously now it’s the cause of a by-election?
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Post by peterl on Mar 25, 2020 23:19:36 GMT
Do we know that Cllr. Walker died of corona? All that was posted was that he has died.
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 26, 2020 1:20:44 GMT
Do we know that Cllr. Walker died of corona? All that was posted was that he has died. Do we know that Cllr. Walker died of corona? All that was posted was that he has died. Given that the picture of him on Waltham Forest’s website shows him on a mobility scooter, even if COVID-19 played a part in his death there were clearly underlying health issues. And, for the record london(ex)tory some of us are taking this bloody seriously; my mum is 88, diabetic, reduced kidney function and post heart attack. I have reduced lung function that means I’m already reliant on a ventilator and oxygen. We cannot completely self isolate because we are reliant on three adult social care calls per day. My medic cousin had to be tested on Monday having been in contact with his husband’s grandfather who has returned a positive test (fortunately my cousin and his husband were negative so from today he’s back on A&E at St James Hospital in Leeds). So I’m not just taking it seriously, I’m shit scared.
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Post by london(ex)tory on Mar 26, 2020 10:51:56 GMT
Do we know that Cllr. Walker died of corona? All that was posted was that he has died. For some of us, this forum isn't the only source of political news. As it happens I am in close contact with one of Cllr Walker's ward colleagues and yes as Tim Mullen alluded to he wasn't in the best of health to begin with, but it was certainly coronavirus that finished him off.
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Post by ideal4radio on Mar 26, 2020 23:02:52 GMT
I think what everyone means here, although they may have a funny way of putting it, is that Cllr. Walker has sadly passed away, and our best wishes go to his loved ones at this sad time. He was one of many men and women in this Country, who, whatever their politics, do not sit on their sofa ranting about the " bloody Council ", but actually cared enough to get off his arse, got involved and stood as a Candidate, got elected, and tried and improve his area, despite his health issues. This goes for the vast majority of Candidates of all political stripes from the Brexit party, through to the Socialist Workers, and everything in between !
Rant over !!
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Post by mike on Mar 26, 2020 23:09:44 GMT
Well said. The lack of byelections for maybe over a year, with no opportunities for prediction fun and bragging rights for good results, seems to be leading to a new sport of which team can clock up the most CV19 councillor deaths.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 28, 2020 11:31:37 GMT
List of current vacancies I know of:
Aberdeen: Kincorth/Nigg/Cove (SNP) Adur: Eastbrook (Lab) Amber Valley: Kilburn, Denby and Holbrook (C) Amber Valley: Somercotes (Lab) Barrow-in-Furness: Roosecote (C) Birmingham: Oscott (Lab) Blaby: Stanton and Flamville (C) Bolton: Westhoughton North and Chew Moor (C) Bridgend: Nant-y-Moel (Ind) Canterbury: Westgate (Lab) Chelmsford: Moulsham Lodge (L Dem) Cherwell: Kidlington West (C) Cheshire East: Crewe West (Lab) Chorley: Chorley North West (Ind) Clackmannanshire: Clackmannanshire East (C) Copeland: Whitehaven Central (Lab) Cornwall: St Mewan (C) Crawley: Ifield (Lab) Denbighshire: Corwen (PC) East Staffordshire: Eton Park (2) (Ind, Lab) Edinburgh: Craigentinny/Duddingston (SNP) Forest of Dean: Berry Hill (Ind) Gateshead: Birtley (Lab) Gloucestershire: Winchcombe and Woodmancote (C) Gravesham: Westcourt (Lab) Greenwich: Glyndon (Ind elected as Lab) Hartlepool: Manor House (BxP elected as UKIP) Knowsley: Halewood South (Ind) Leicester: North Evington (Lab) Lewisham: Catford South (Lab) Lewisham: Sydenham (Lab) Maidstone: Boxley (C) Mid Sussex: Copthorne and Worth (Ind) Milton Keynes: Tattenhoe (C) Newcastle upon Tyne: Blakelaw (Lab) Newcastle upon Tyne: Byker (Lab) Newcastle upon Tyne: Lemington (Lab) Newport: Victoria (Lab) North Lanarkshire: Thorniewood (SNP) North Lincolnshire: Ashby (Lab) North Lincolnshire: Broughton and Appleby (2) (C, C) North West Leicestershire: Worthington and Breedon (C) Northumberland: Alnwick (C) Perth and Kinross: Perth City North (SNP) Perth and Kinross: Perth City South (SNP) Rhondda Cynon Taff: Hawthorn (Lab) IMPENDING Rushmoor: Fernhill (C) Salford: Kersal (Lab) Sandwell: Wednesbury South (Lab) Scottish Borders: Leaderdale and Melrose (SNP) Sheffield: Broomhill and Sharrow Vale (Lab) Sheffield: Walkley (Lab) South Derbyshire: Hilton (C) South Ribble: St Ambrose (Lab) Southend-on-Sea: St Luke's (Ind) Sunderland: Houghton (Lab) Surrey Heath: Bagshot (L Dem) Swansea: Castle (Lab) Swindon: Rodbourne Cheney (Lab) Telford and Wrekin: Donington (Lab) Test Valley: Chilworth, Nursling and Rownhams (C) Thanet: Newington (Lab) Trafford: Priory (Lab) Trafford: Village (Ind L Dem) Tunbridge Wells: Pantiles and St Mark's (C) Wakefield: Altofts and Whitwood (Lab) Waltham Forest: Hatch Lane (C) West Lothian: Livingston South (SNP) Wiltshire: By Brook (C) Wirral: Moreton West and Saughall Massie (C) Wolverhampton: Bushbury South and Low Hill (Lab)
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 28, 2020 11:35:54 GMT
Tahir Ali MP ought to resign his Nechells seat in Birmingham soon, but I daresay it's not a priority right now
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 28, 2020 12:00:30 GMT
Tahir Ali MP ought to resign his Nechells seat in Birmingham soon, but I daresay it's not a priority right now Doesn't appear that many of those due to resign or not stand again are doing a great deal about it. Given the lack of by elections this may have been instructed?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 28, 2020 12:17:26 GMT
Tahir Ali MP ought to resign his Nechells seat in Birmingham soon, but I daresay it's not a priority right now With a bit of time on my hands I might compile a list of new MPs who are councillors. Until the crisis blew up we were expecting Nickie Aiken to resign her council seat so there was a byelection on 7 May. Gareth Bacon had indicated he would do the same in Bexley. Now that there are no byelections, there's no reason for new MPs who are councillors to deprive their council constituents of representation.
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Post by andrewteale on Mar 28, 2020 12:20:37 GMT
I have Bexley, Longlands on my list as well but it appears that Gareth Bacon MP is still listed as a councillor. He was reported as intending to resign from the council.
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Post by eamonn on Mar 29, 2020 17:44:52 GMT
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Post by spirit on Mar 30, 2020 8:56:38 GMT
Tahir Ali MP ought to resign his Nechells seat in Birmingham soon, but I daresay it's not a priority right now With a bit of time on my hands I might compile a list of new MPs who are councillors. Until the crisis blew up we were expecting Nickie Aiken to resign her council seat so there was a byelection on 7 May. Gareth Bacon had indicated he would do the same in Bexley. Now that there are no byelections, there's no reason for new MPs who are councillors to deprive their council constituents of representation. Alex Davies-Jones (Pontypridd) had already indicated that she was not going to vacate her council seat. As you say, no impetus for doing so now.
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Post by michael2019 on Mar 30, 2020 11:07:01 GMT
Out of interest does anyone know how the six month rule of not having a by-election within six months if the seat was up anyway is affected by the coronavirus?
Some of these vacancies may have been up for election in May. Does this still apply?
Also I don't know what councils are doing but I believe councillors have to attend a meeting (committee or main) at least once every six months with limited meetings it is possible that this might prove difficult for some depending how long it is since their last meeting and we don't want to encourage people coming into unnecessary meetings. Has this provision been relaxed at all?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 30, 2020 11:17:48 GMT
Out of interest does anyone know how the six month rule of not having a by-election within six months if the seat was up anyway is affected by the coronavirus? Some of these vacancies may have been up for election in May. Does this still apply? Also I don't know what councils are doing but I believe councillors have to attend a meeting (committee or main) at least once every six months with limited meetings it is possible that this might prove difficult for some depending how long it is since their last meeting and we don't want to encourage people coming into unnecessary meetings. Has this provision been relaxed at all? The Coronavirus Act has not amended the 'six month rule' (s. 89(3) of the Local Government Act 1972), but has extended the terms of all office-holders which were due to expire in May 2020. So all those vacancies which were previously caught by the 'six month rule' are no longer so caught, because it turns out they didn't occur within six months of the end of the term after all. When the Secretary of State allows elections to resume, byelections could be called. However it would seem to be within the scope of the Secretary of State to make regulations under s. 63(2) of the Coronavirus Act providing that these vacancies should not be filled. The attendance provisions (s. 85 of the 1972 Act) have also been left untouched, but councils already have the power under s. 85(1) to authorise the absence of members.
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Post by mboy on Mar 30, 2020 11:24:05 GMT
Tahir Ali MP ought to resign his Nechells seat in Birmingham soon, but I daresay it's not a priority right now Doesn't appear that many of those due to resign or not stand again are doing a great deal about it. Given the lack of by elections this may have been instructed? They're stuck between a rock and a hard place... If they resign as they were going to (maybe because they now have other commitments) they will leave a vacancy for a year which will inevitably be attacked by other candidates/parties in 2021 as a way to win the seat; if they don't resign but are unable to commit fully (because they have other commitments which was why they were resigning) they will be attacked by other parties/candidates for not being committed to the job! It's an absurd situation...
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 30, 2020 11:26:58 GMT
Doesn't appear that many of those due to resign or not stand again are doing a great deal about it. Given the lack of by elections this may have been instructed? They're stuck between a rock and a hard place... If they resign as they were going to (maybe because they now have other commitments) they will leave a vacancy for a year which will inevitably be attacked by other candidates/parties in 2021 as a way to win the seat; if they don't resign but are unable to commit fully (because they have other commitments which was why they were resigning) they will be attacked by other parties/candidates for not being committed to the job! It's an absurd situation... Which is why co-options from the same party would be far more sensible
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Post by mboy on Mar 30, 2020 11:32:06 GMT
Agreed.
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