Khunanup
Lib Dem
Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on May 23, 2020 0:06:37 GMT
I regret to inform you that the winner of the Clayton and Openshaw byelection is round the twist: What the hell's that all about?!
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Post by bjornhattan on May 23, 2020 0:19:09 GMT
I regret to inform you that the winner of the Clayton and Openshaw byelection is round the twist: What the hell's that all about?! It seems to be linked to the "sovereign citizen" conspiracies, which seem to think that your name is a separate legal entity to your person. I think it's also related to these advertising boards which seemed to come out of nowhere a few years back.
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Khunanup
Lib Dem
Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on May 23, 2020 0:28:43 GMT
What the hell's that all about?! It seems to be linked to the "sovereign citizen" conspiracies, which seem to think that your name is a separate legal entity to your person. I think it's also related to these advertising boards which seemed to come out of nowhere a few years back. I thought it might be to do with the advertisements but the document was so unreadable I couldn't be sure...
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maxque
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Post by maxque on May 23, 2020 0:46:13 GMT
According to Twitter, he also first claimed that Coronavirus is bogus, but now thinks that it's government planned. Also, keeps quoting the Bible. They elected quite a case to office.
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Post by markgoodair on May 23, 2020 6:29:26 GMT
Why does he want to register his claim with the Vatican?
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The Bishop
Labour
Down With Factionalism!
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Post by The Bishop on May 23, 2020 9:10:24 GMT
He used to be a LibDem, you know.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 23, 2020 9:19:41 GMT
He used to be a LibDem, you know. So he's actually less deranged than he used to be
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mike
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Post by mike on May 23, 2020 9:43:06 GMT
I'd still vote for him in that ward when its close between him and Labour, with no one else being anywhere near.
On a council that is Labour 92, LibDem 3 and Independent 1 that would otherwise be Labour 93 and LibDem 3, he is a welcome addition.
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on May 23, 2020 14:02:12 GMT
He used to be a LibDem, you know. Is that right? He was certainly in the continuity Liberal Party, but was he a Lib Dem at some point too? Genuine question ...
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peterl
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Post by peterl on May 23, 2020 14:47:10 GMT
According to Twitter, he also first claimed that Coronavirus is bogus, but now thinks that it's government planned. Also, keeps quoting the Bible. They elected quite a case to office. Let's just be clear about something here. This chap does indeed seem to be a nutter. But quoting from the Bible is hardly material evidence to support this position.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 18:05:37 GMT
"lost at see"?
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Post by froome on May 23, 2020 18:19:00 GMT
I noticed that as well. Maybe he's referring to the Vatican, as The See. Or perhaps not...
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Post by John Chanin on May 23, 2020 18:50:47 GMT
If I remember correctly the “freemen” thing has something in it about ships, and this strange document clearly refers to ships. When it was pointed out here I was quite baffled by it, and where it might have come from. It isn’t any sort of ordinary conspiracy theory. Edit: I’ve just checked “freeman on the land” on Wikipedia, and the document quoted by Davıd Boothroyd is clearly a classic case of it, ticking almost all the boxes.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 23, 2020 19:25:17 GMT
The Freemen have some bizarre idea about admiralty and maritime law, believing it has some sort of applicability
The 'Cestui que vie' law mentioned is real and not entirely repealed but is commonly misinterpreted - it's basically the foundation of the modern law on presumption of death for people who go missing.
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Post by markgoodair on May 23, 2020 22:03:57 GMT
I'd still vote for him in that ward when its close between him and Labour, with no one else being anywhere near. On a council that is Labour 92, LibDem 3 and Independent 1 that would otherwise be Labour 93 and LibDem 3, he is a welcome addition. A perfect example as to why we need electoral reform.
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Post by lbarnes on May 23, 2020 22:10:53 GMT
He used to be a LibDem, you know. Labour before that,
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Post by tonygreaves on May 23, 2020 22:22:53 GMT
It's a matter of historical pedantry but what is referred to above as the "continuity Liberal party" was no such thing - it was the "started up again Liberal party" by (inter alia) some people who thought they had lost some battles in the early Salads, and some who never transferred their membership to the Salads. Just saying.
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J.G.Harston
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Leave-voting Brexit-supporting Liberal Democrat
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Post by J.G.Harston on May 24, 2020 5:34:03 GMT
It's a matter of historical pedantry but what is referred to above as the "continuity Liberal party" was no such thing - it was the "started up again Liberal party" by (inter alia) some people who thought they had lost some battles in the early Salads, and some who never transferred their membership to the Salads. Just saying. Nah, The Real Liberal Party.
(ducks, runs away quickly)
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The Bishop
Labour
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Post by The Bishop on May 24, 2020 10:43:18 GMT
He used to be a LibDem, you know. Labour before that, Was not aware of that, but given he was a LibDem councillor for the old Beswick/Clayton ward back in the 1990s it must be some time ago now.
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Post by lbarnes on May 24, 2020 10:54:37 GMT
Was not aware of that, but given he was a LibDem councillor for the old Beswick/Clayton ward back in the 1990s it must be some time ago now. It was a long time ago. I may be maligning him but I have a vague memory of him causing a fuss when he wrote to the paper in favour of a far-right candidate or he signed their nomination papers. Something along those lines.
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