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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 13, 2020 18:25:32 GMT
Her supporters were Baroness Mallalieu (who I think is still nominally Labour) and Lord Elton who is a nice enough old (90) Old Etonian Tory who was once a junior minister in the Northern Ireland office. An odd pair really.
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 13, 2020 18:54:58 GMT
Mallalieu is President of the Countryside Alliance whose headquarters used to be in Vauxhall and Hoey is a strong opponent of the fox hunting ban. She's also a Labour Leaver so quite a natural choice for Hoey.
I am not sure where Elton stands on either of those.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 13, 2020 18:56:23 GMT
Baroness Mallalieu is still Labour and is about the only prominent pro-hunting Labour Parliamentarian (since Kate Hoey is non-affiliated).
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Post by CatholicLeft on Oct 13, 2020 19:24:47 GMT
Baroness Mallalieu is still Labour and is about the only prominent pro-hunting Labour Parliamentarian (since Kate Hoey is non-affiliated). Give it a couple years and she'll be back with the Labour whip, as I expect will happen with one or two others.
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Post by peterl on Oct 15, 2020 15:53:51 GMT
Per the Guardian politics feed, Keith Stewart QC has been appointed Advocate General for Scotland and will be enobled.
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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 15, 2020 16:55:53 GMT
The Lords is full of Tory backbenchers who came in as Ministers and later resigned or were sacked. Some are gamekeepers turned poachers (and may be very good poachers since they know where the bodies are buried) and others fish out of water.
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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 17, 2020 21:46:51 GMT
Just one of the new peers coming in this next week - Nigel Dodds (lord Dodds of Duncairn) who will presumably join the DUP group in the House and become its effective leader.
The new Archbishop of York joins us on Thursday.
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 17, 2020 22:21:19 GMT
The Archbishop of York was already a member of the Lords in his previous position as Bishop of Chelmsford. Does he have to be sworn in again?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 17, 2020 23:35:08 GMT
Yes. He has to go through a second ceremony of introduction. If he were made a life peer after retiring as a Bishop he would get a third.
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 17, 2020 23:58:03 GMT
Do all translated bishops have to go through that or is it only when they become Archbishops?
Supposing a bishop had been at Liverpool long enough to sit in the Lords and then was translated first to Durham then to York and then to Canterbury then took a peerage on retirement would they have five introductions?
What is the record for the number of times a member of the Lords has been introduced?
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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 18, 2020 14:26:50 GMT
Yes, I think so, but the introduction ceremony for Bishops is a bit simpler. The point is that it's the position that is coming in not the person. I think.
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Post by peterl on Oct 18, 2020 18:28:34 GMT
Do bishops have to have two supporters like other peers? And are these normally other bishops?
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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 19, 2020 16:21:44 GMT
Good question. I think the answer is yes and yes. Will find out on Thurday!
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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 20, 2020 15:22:17 GMT
Whoops - I must have misread the lists.
The introductions on Thursday 15th October were Lord Mendoza (Con) and Baroness Shafik (XB).
Jo Johnson (Lord Johnson of Marylebone) and Lord Davies of Brixton are coming in next week on Thursday 29th October. Lord Davies is Bryn Davies, a London lefty from the Livingstone era and 76 years of age - just what the ageing Labour benches need to rejuvenate! Also next week on Monday is Lord Hammond of Runnymede (who will of course sit overlooked by all the barons from Magna Carta).
After that there is just a trickle left of the 36.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 20, 2020 15:36:13 GMT
Whoops - I must have misread the lists. The introductions on Thursday 15th October were Lord Mendoza (Con) and Baroness Shafik (XB). Jo Johnson (Lord Johnson of Marylebone) and Lord Davies of Brixton are coming in next week on Thursday 29th October. Lord Davies is Bryn Davies, a London lefty from the Livingstone era and 76 years of age - just what the ageing Labour benches need to rejuvenate! Also next week on Monday is Lord Hammond of Runnymede (who will of course sit overlooked by all the barons from Magna Carta). After that there is just a trickle left of the 36. Bryn Davies (not to be confused, but he will be, with Brian Davies who is already in the Lords) became the leader of ILEA with the left wing takeover of the GLC under Ken Livingstone. However he only held the post for two years, being himself ousted by Frances Morrell who presided over its dissolution.
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Post by neilm on Oct 20, 2020 17:10:28 GMT
Whoops - I must have misread the lists. The introductions on Thursday 15th October were Lord Mendoza (Con) and Baroness Shafik (XB). Jo Johnson (Lord Johnson of Marylebone) and Lord Davies of Brixton are coming in next week on Thursday 29th October. Lord Davies is Bryn Davies, a London lefty from the Livingstone era and 76 years of age - just what the ageing Labour benches need to rejuvenate! Also next week on Monday is Lord Hammond of Runnymede (who will of course sit overlooked by all the barons from Magna Carta). After that there is just a trickle left of the 36. Bryn Davies (not to be confused, but he will be, with Brian Davies who is already in the Lords) became the leader of ILEA with the left wing takeover of the GLC under Ken Livingstone. However he only held the post for two years, being himself ousted by Frances Morrell who presided over its dissolution. Neil Fletcher presided over the dissolution, no? Davies was/is a pensions expert and I think might be an actuary by training, so an interesting addition.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 20, 2020 17:34:46 GMT
Bryn Davies (not to be confused, but he will be, with Brian Davies who is already in the Lords) became the leader of ILEA with the left wing takeover of the GLC under Ken Livingstone. However he only held the post for two years, being himself ousted by Frances Morrell who presided over its dissolution. Neil Fletcher presided over the dissolution, no? Davies was/is a pensions expert and I think might be an actuary by training, so an interesting addition. True it is. He should have stayed at Camden...
Set up a pensions consultancy when he left ILEA.
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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 20, 2020 19:41:42 GMT
Not sure how many of the 36 still have to arrive.
Numbers are now (as on the Lords website): Con 256, Lab 177, LD 89, DUP 5, Green 2, UUP 2, PC 1, Others with political labels 6.
Cross-bench 181, Non-affiliated 52, Bishops 26. Speaker 1.
Not sure all the new ones have been added. Does not included those with leave of absence.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 20, 2020 20:03:15 GMT
I think: 30 out of the 36 have had Peerages, and 27 have been introduced.
Awaiting titles are:
Sir Henry Bellingham Dame Louise Casey Ruth Davidson Evgeny Lebedev Sir Edward Lister
+ Keith Stewart
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Post by neilm on Oct 21, 2020 8:55:22 GMT
I think: 30 out of the 36 have had Peerages, and 27 have been introduced. Awaiting titles are: Sir Henry Bellingham Dame Louise Casey Ruth Davidson Evgeny Lebedev Sir Edward Lister + Keith Stewart As an aside, is Advocate General one of the posts that bestows artifical silk? I appreciate that Stewart already is a QC and I don't recall Alistair Darling taking silk when he did the job temporarily.
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