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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 21, 2020 16:57:34 GMT
I think: 30 out of the 36 have had Peerages, and 27 have been introduced. Awaiting titles are: Sir Henry Bellingham Dame Louise Casey Ruth Davidson Evgeny Lebedev Sir Edward Lister + Keith Stewart That's five of he 36. One more?
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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 21, 2020 16:59:37 GMT
Some of the others have started voting which is pushing up the Government numbers a bit. They still lost a vote by a record margin yesterday! The Crossbenchers voted against them by 100 to one. Crazy days.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Oct 21, 2020 18:26:53 GMT
Whoops - I must have misread the lists. The introductions on Thursday 15th October were Lord Mendoza (Con) and Baroness Shafik (XB). Jo Johnson (Lord Johnson of Marylebone) and Lord Davies of Brixton are coming in next week on Thursday 29th October. Lord Davies is Bryn Davies, a London lefty from the Livingstone era and 76 years of age - just what the ageing Labour benches need to rejuvenate! Also next week on Monday is Lord Hammond of Runnymede (who will of course sit overlooked by all the barons from Magna Carta). After that there is just a trickle left of the 36. Bryn Davies (not to be confused, but he will be, with Brian Davies who is already in the Lords) became the leader of ILEA with the left wing takeover of the GLC under Ken Livingstone. However he only held the post for two years, being himself ousted by Frances Morrell who presided over its dissolution. And less still to be confused with Byron Davies, who also is already in the Lords. Slightly surprising that none of them have chosen to do a Bannside/Framlingham/Glendonbrook really.
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Post by robert1 on Oct 22, 2020 11:49:47 GMT
Some of the others have started voting which is pushing up the Government numbers a bit. They still lost a vote by a record margin yesterday! The Crossbenchers voted against them by 100 to one. Crazy days. Just for clarification it wasn't 'a record margin'. It was just enormous Lord Framlingham has the family name Lord. He could therefore have been Lord Lord. Lord Glendonbrook was Michael Bishop thereby potentially creating Lord Bishop which might have been slightly confusing.
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Post by tonygreaves on Oct 22, 2020 12:08:19 GMT
Some of the others have started voting which is pushing up the Government numbers a bit. They still lost a vote by a record margin yesterday! The Crossbenchers voted against them by 100 to one. Crazy days. Just for clarification it wasn't 'a record margin'. It was just enormous Lord Framlingham has the family name Lord. He could therefore have been Lord Lord. Lord Glendonbrook was Michael Bishop thereby potentially creating Lord Bishop which might have been slightly confusing. Doesn't stop Lord Judge being Lord Judge! The vote was a record in recent times (ie the Hybrid House - with its remote voting - which has changed voting patterns and numbers quite dramatically).
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Post by peterl on Oct 22, 2020 17:22:49 GMT
I'm not sure if we are talking about the same man, but I have come across (in my legal studies) a judge named Lord Judge!
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 22, 2020 17:49:19 GMT
I'm not sure if we are talking about the same man, but I have come across (in my legal studies) a judge named Lord Judge! at one point he was Mr Justice Judge.
Has there ever been a Lord Lord we ask ourselves?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 22, 2020 19:10:35 GMT
I'm not sure if we are talking about the same man, but I have come across (in my legal studies) a judge named Lord Judge! at one point he was Mr Justice Judge. Has there ever been a Lord Lord we ask ourselves?
Sort of.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lord
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 22, 2020 19:15:53 GMT
When Henry Duke was given a peerage he became Lord Merrivale. When Frederick Marquis was given a peerage he became the Earl of Woolton.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 22, 2020 19:20:48 GMT
When Henry Duke was given a peerage he became Lord Merrivale. When Frederick Marquis was given a peerage he became the Earl of Woolton. Henry Duke, of the Exeter election petition of 1910.
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 22, 2020 19:50:49 GMT
When Henry Duke was given a peerage he became Lord Merrivale. When Frederick Marquis was given a peerage he became the Earl of Woolton. Maybe one day the MP for Basildon will become Baron Baron.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 22, 2020 20:01:28 GMT
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Post by Chris from Brum on Oct 22, 2020 20:04:28 GMT
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Post by greenchristian on Oct 22, 2020 20:36:39 GMT
I'm not sure if we are talking about the same man, but I have come across (in my legal studies) a judge named Lord Judge! at one point he was Mr Justice Judge.
Has there ever been a Lord Lord we ask ourselves?
My favourite example of this kind of thing is the late Cardinal Sin.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Oct 22, 2020 21:39:42 GMT
at one point he was Mr Justice Judge.
Has there ever been a Lord Lord we ask ourselves?
My favourite example of this kind of thing is the late Cardinal Sin. A great, brave and brilliant man, who loved the fact his name was so iconically ironic.
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Post by maxque on Oct 22, 2020 21:51:16 GMT
My favourite example of this kind of thing is the late Cardinal Sin. A great, brave and brilliant man, who loved the fact his name was so iconically ironic. Lies. He was a killer, who caused thousands of people to die from AIDS.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Oct 22, 2020 22:05:41 GMT
A great, brave and brilliant man, who loved the fact his name was so iconically ironic. Lies. He was a killer, who caused thousands of people to die from AIDS. Complete nonsense, and typical anti-Catholic tosh. He stood up to Ferdinando Marcos from the 1970s (when the West were supporting him), he called on people to stop the military preventing the election of Corazon Aquino (whose husband Marcos had murdered) and, as an anti-curruption campaigner, supported the campaigns against President Estrada. He led the protests against the attempted overthrow of President Arroyo. He threatened to resign rather than accept guidance form the Vatican to not involve himself in politics. To accuse him of being a murderer because of (I assume) Church teaching on contraception is ridiculous. Sit comfortably bedind your screen maxque, while the brave bring down dictators and you raise your flag calling them murderers.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 22, 2020 22:49:08 GMT
Sin actively campaigned against the distribution of condoms which at the time were vitally important in dealing with HIV. My views are opposed to the Catholic Church on almost all issues with regard to life and death. So while there may have been things he said or did which I would not be opposed to, opposition to condom distribution would not be one of them
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Post by CatholicLeft on Oct 22, 2020 23:05:59 GMT
Sin actively campaigned against the distribution of condoms which at the time were vitally important in dealing with HIV. My views are opposed to the Catholic Church on almost all issues with regard to life and death. So while there may have been things he said or did which I would not be opposed to, opposition to condom distribution would not be one of them Of course, but to call him a killer who "caused thousands of deaths" is ludicrous.
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 22, 2020 23:48:59 GMT
Some of the others have started voting which is pushing up the Government numbers a bit. They still lost a vote by a record margin yesterday! The Crossbenchers voted against them by 100 to one. Crazy days. Just for clarification it wasn't 'a record margin'. It was just enormous Lord Framlingham has the family name Lord. He could therefore have been Lord Lord. Lord Glendonbrook was Michael Bishop thereby potentially creating Lord Bishop which might have been slightly confusing. Isn't there still a rule that such titles are not allowed precisely because of the confusion? This is why it was Lord Woolton not Lord Marquis.
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