Local Council By-elections 7th November 2019

[carlton43]

Nov 8, 2019 9:43:35 GMT yellowperil said:

Nov 8, 2019 9:33:01 GMT carlton43 said:

Don't fret YP.  It is a one-off local authority by-election in one of those nice areas where electors vote for actual people rather than on tribal or knee-jerk basis.  It happens to all parties.  You just happen to be currently less used to losing seats. 

I understand all that, but given the importance of the time this is no time for cosy complacency and a shrugged off so what. Of course also I perfectly understand that that is exactly what you hope for from us.This time we're serious.

Well, indeed so!

Volume 16 of 'The New History of the British Liberal Movement'.

'This Time We Are Serious'.

[timmullen1]

Nov 8, 2019 9:06:11 GMT Tony Otim said:

Nov 8, 2019 7:30:31 GMT andrewp said:

Anything can happen in Cornish local elections. I would say after the Scottish highlands and West and mid Wales,  Cornwall is one of the  next most difficult areas to extrapolate local election results onto a general election. 4 out of the 5 candidates in this election are Town councillors in Wadebridge, so from a distance it was impossible to tell if one of those was very well known in the town, Ironically the winner was the 1 of the 5 who isn’t, but a quick google I think showed he was a retired policeman in the town and linked him to the town carnival and one or two other town organisations, so I certainly thought he would be in contention, 

I believe the winner is a former town councillor, although I may have picked that up wrong from a quick Google search...

Google also picks up quite a few local news stories about crime in Wadebridge about three-four years ago where the quoted police sergeant had the same name - now retired and running for elected office perhaps?

[cogload]

Shetland

T/out is 31.2% Lerwick South, 31% Shetland Central.

[The Bishop]

I think it is at least fair to say that the Tory result in Croydon hardly justified some of the hype beforehand.

[jacoblamsden]

Nov 8, 2019 10:38:44 GMT The Bishop said:

I think it is at least fair to say that the Tory result in Croydon hardly justified some of the hype beforehand.

I did wonder whether they were almost putting too much effort in. It was a bit like flooding tons of Momentum activists, many of whom who had never canvassed before to places like Hillingdon and Barnet in the last year's London local elections - this appeared at best ineffective at worst counterproductive. The Lib Dems and Greens also did surprisingly well. 

[cogload]

Morag Lyall wins Shetland Central, Steven Flaws wins Lerwick South.

Lerwick South (first preferences):

Flaws 350
Henderson 73
Robinson 374
Valente 154
Wenger 116

Steve Flaws elected at stage 5. Slightly surprised that Gary Robinson didn't win, I blame the Scalloway connection. 

Shetland Central (first preferences)

Adamson 77
Buchan 116
Douglas 111
Laverie 84
Lyall 344. 

Morag Lyall elected at stage 3. 

[wallington]

Nov 8, 2019 10:54:15 GMT jacoblamsden said:

Nov 8, 2019 10:38:44 GMT The Bishop said:

I think it is at least fair to say that the Tory result in Croydon hardly justified some of the hype beforehand.

I did wonder whether they were almost putting too much effort in. It was a bit like flooding tons of Momentum activists, many of whom who had never canvassed before to places like Hillingdon and Barnet in the last year's London local elections - this appeared at best ineffective at worst counterproductive. The Lib Dems and Greens also did surprisingly well. 

The Green candidate is fairly well known in the Croydon town centre, she has managed a couple of successful pubs in Fairfield ward in the past (although currently owns one which is outside the ward boundaries). I imagine she may have had enough name recognition to hold up the Green vote, as I think only the one leaflet was put out for the by-election.

[Tony Otim]

Nothing from Chelmsford yet?

[cogload]

Nov 8, 2019 12:02:12 GMT Tony Otim said:

Nothing from Chelmsford yet?

Marconi By-election results:

Turnout: 21%

Lib Dem 563
Conservatives 311
Labour 156
Green 69
Ind 72

@libdems hold! Welcome to Smita Rajesh! t.co/kWPa2wLpsB

[iang]

Thank goodness for that - was starting to feel less than confident

[markgoodair]

Marconi By-election results:

Turnout: 21%

Lib Dem 563 48.1% +0.6%
Conservatives 311 26.6% -0.5%
Labour 156 13.3%-12.1%
Green 69 5.9% +5.9%
Ind 72 6.1% +6.1%

[tonygreaves]

Okay. Another good result for Labour...

[Adam in Stroud]

Nov 8, 2019 0:08:22 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Nov 8, 2019 0:05:20 GMT curiousliberal said:

Thanks for correcting my mistake, @barnabymarder . Must have conflated the two results

Twitter says the independent was an 'independent liberal'. Any substance to that?

Not really. Mark Samuel is a perpetual candidate in Croydon politics who has idiosyncratic ideas - no more liberal than they are conservative. He has run under various labels including 'People's Choice' (which really merits prosecution under the Trades Descriptions Act as he regularly came bottom of the poll).

[johnloony]

Nov 8, 2019 15:35:08 GMT Adam in Stroud said:

Nov 8, 2019 0:08:22 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Not really. Mark Samuel is a perpetual candidate in Croydon politics who has idiosyncratic ideas - no more liberal than they are conservative. He has run under various labels including 'People's Choice' (which really merits prosecution under the Trades Descriptions Act as he regularly came bottom of the poll).

In my very first election as a candidate, I got 175 votes and the PC candidate (Mark Samuel's sister) got 108 votes. In the Fairfield by-election in 2005, she and I got 34 and 31 votes respectively. Mark's lowest ever vote was 9 votes in Bensham Manor ward in 2007.

[andrea]

For those interested in Croydon Labour shenanigans, here's the report into the candidate selection for Fairfield by-election held on 7 November 2019

insidecroydon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Report-of-the-Independent-Inquiry-into-the-November-2019-Fairfield-By.docx

The candidate originally selected wasn't ineligible. The local Local Campaign Forum excluded him to install Ms Skipper based on false information being provided to them by London Region party.
The (not named) party officers who provided such info are labelled as "with questionable integrity and competence". However, a year has passed and so the panel decided not to push actions to avoid furhter reputational damages.