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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 14:31:00 GMT
The outgoing MP's attitude to Corbyn won't help enthuse voters either
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Post by john07 on Sept 15, 2019 16:54:26 GMT
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Post by myth11 on Sept 15, 2019 17:14:44 GMT
He is not very good at maths. There were only 20575 remain voters in the whole of Bassetlaw. now deduct the 3 wards not in the seat. deduct the lib dems remain vote. deduct the con remain vote. deduct the few voted for the indy . |
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Post by jamie on Sept 15, 2019 17:21:47 GMT
It’s believable that Bassetlaw Labour voters were majority Leave. It’s definitely not believable that this was the case among most Labour leave seats.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 17:41:49 GMT
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Post by bjornhattan on Sept 15, 2019 18:18:16 GMT
Palmer was Leicester based and isvery pro-EU so presumably not a good choice for Labour. The local party is worried which may mean my numbers are not far off lab 2017 12500 remain 15000 leave total 27500ish con 2017 5000 remain 17500 leave total 22500ish others(lib dem + indy) 1500 remain 600 leave total 2100ish Not in seat/did not vote remain 1500 ish leave 10000 ish Out of curiosity, where do you get these figures from? Oh and incidentally, I suspect Mann is somewhat right. The 2017 Labour vote might only be 55% Leave or so here, but those who abandoned Labour in 2015, 2010, 2005, etc. will all be extremely leave. And they're voters who Labour will have to win back to increase their majority in these type of seats. |
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Post by myth11 on Sept 15, 2019 19:17:08 GMT
The local party is worried which may mean my numbers are not far off lab 2017 12500 remain 15000 leave total 27500ish con 2017 5000 remain 17500 leave total 22500ish others(lib dem + indy) 1500 remain 600 leave total 2100ish Not in seat/did not vote remain 1500 ish leave 10000 ish Out of curiosity, where do you get these figures from? Oh and incidentally, I suspect Mann is somewhat right. The 2017 Labour vote might only be 55% Leave or so here, but those who abandoned Labour in 2015, 2010, 2005, etc. will all be extremely leave. And they're voters who Labour will have to win back to increase their majority in these type of seats. my numbers are based on what someone at the count told me which was the rural areas and Retford voted 60% leave and ex mining belt of Worksop/Carlton in Lindrick/Harworth were 75% leave. |
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Post by bjornhattan on Sept 15, 2019 19:30:16 GMT
Out of curiosity, where do you get these figures from? Oh and incidentally, I suspect Mann is somewhat right. The 2017 Labour vote might only be 55% Leave or so here, but those who abandoned Labour in 2015, 2010, 2005, etc. will all be extremely leave. And they're voters who Labour will have to win back to increase their majority in these type of seats. my numbers are based on what someone at the count told me which was the rural areas and Retford voted 60% leave and ex mining belt of Worksop/Carlton in Lindrick/Harworth were 75% leave. Ah, it's always useful to know those sort of breakdowns. Whilst some of it was published, I've got a couple of friends who were at the Oxford count, and the variance between areas was staggering (apparently 60%+ in the WWC estates in south Oxford versus 10% or less in the northern suburbs). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 19:37:24 GMT
Mann is a great fit for the seat. Big shoes to fill
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 23, 2019 10:15:19 GMT
Might we get a by-election here after all?
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 23, 2019 10:18:04 GMT
Well both here and Buckingham, it will only happen if a GE is delayed well into 2020. Which right now doesn't seem likely.
Mann was still an MP as of last night, when does he intend to resign his seat?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 23, 2019 10:31:36 GMT
It appears that the patent creating John Mann as Baron Mann of Holbeck Moor will be issued today, at which point he will cease to be Member of Parliament for Bassetlaw.
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Post by cogload on Oct 23, 2019 10:59:38 GMT
It appears that the patent creating John Mann as Baron Mann of Holbeck Moor will be issued today, at which point he will cease to be Member of Parliament for Bassetlaw. Makes the Brexit maths more amusing. |
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Post by curiousliberal on Oct 23, 2019 11:04:54 GMT
It appears that the patent creating John Mann as Baron Mann of Holbeck Moor will be issued today, at which point he will cease to be Member of Parliament for Bassetlaw. Makes the Brexit maths more amusing. A bad move for a government nominally interested in delivering Brexit this side of an election. |
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Post by neilm on Oct 23, 2019 17:23:06 GMT
And, let's be honest, if there's a change of government he won't be the anti-Semitism tsar for long.
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Post by john07 on Oct 23, 2019 18:11:00 GMT
And, let's be honest, if there's a change of government he won't be the anti-Semitism tsar for long. Given the record of the Tsars on anti-semitism, I find the term rather ridiculous. Rather like John Mann! And I once knew him well. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 28, 2019 14:23:05 GMT
Bassetlaw is now vacant - letters patent under the Great Seal creating John Mann as Baron Mann were issued today.
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 28, 2019 14:27:48 GMT
Bassetlaw is now vacant - letters patent under the Great Seal creating John Mann as Baron Mann were issued today. Is this the first time someone has moved directly from the Commons to the Lords since Willie Whitelaw in 1983? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 28, 2019 14:29:24 GMT
Bassetlaw is now vacant - letters patent under the Great Seal creating John Mann as Baron Mann were issued today. Is this the first time someone has moved directly from the Commons to the Lords since Willie Whitelaw in 1983? Since George Robertson in 1999. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Oct 28, 2019 21:09:41 GMT
Oughtn't we wait for the Supreme Court of Europhile Girl's Blouses to rule on whether the Great Seal is entitled to do what it's always done?
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