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Post by BucksDucks on Sept 19, 2019 22:29:13 GMT
A relatively good result for the Liberal Party in Old Swan. Managed to move passed the Greens into second and keep us behind them. I guess they must have put in more than just a token effort.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 19, 2019 22:30:02 GMT
WILTSHIRE Ethandune
WICKHAM, Suzanne Grahem (Conservative) 778
RANKIN, Alan Charles (Liberal Democrat) 587
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 19, 2019 22:33:07 GMT
WILTSHIRE Ethandune WICKHAM, Suzanne Grahem (Conservative) 778 RANKIN, Alan Charles (Liberal Democrat) 587 Closer than for a long time. One for our target list. |
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 19, 2019 22:33:53 GMT
WILTSHIRE Ethandune WICKHAM, Suzanne Grahem (Conservative) 778 RANKIN, Alan Charles (Liberal Democrat) 587 Closer than usual, and probably some sympathy vote for Suzanne Wickham |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 19, 2019 22:34:00 GMT
CANTERBURY Chestfield
Ben Fitter-Harding (The Conservative Party) 728
Peter John Old (Liberal Democrats) 562
Morag Warren (Labour) 140
Joe Egerton (Independent) 84
Nicole David (The Green Party) 68
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 19, 2019 22:35:08 GMT
CANTERBURY Chestfield Ben Fitter-Harding (The Conservative Party) 728 Peter John Old (Liberal Democrats) 562 Morag Warren (Labour) 140 Joe Egerton (Independent) 84 Nicole David (The Green Party) 68 Again, closer than expected, and to be targeted next time. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 19, 2019 22:35:37 GMT
LIVERPOOL Old Swan
SHORTALL, William (Labour) 1,153
COYNE, Mick (Liberal Party) 293
LEA, Chris (Liberal Democrats) 272
RALPH, Martin (End Austerity – Old Swan Against Cuts) 138
MAXWELL, George Duncan (Green) 130
ANDREW, Peter (Conservative) 96
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 19, 2019 22:36:12 GMT
Not much sign of an SNP surge there. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 19, 2019 22:36:17 GMT
CANTERBURY Chestfield Ben Fitter-Harding (The Conservative Party) 728 Peter John Old (Liberal Democrats) 562 Morag Warren (Labour) 140 Joe Egerton (Independent) 84 Nicole David (The Green Party) 68 Wow. Some swing from Con to LD! This should be rock solid Tory territory. |
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Post by yellowperil on Sept 19, 2019 22:43:01 GMT
NORTH LANARKSHIRE Thorniewood First preferences Norah Mooney (Scottish Labour Party) 1,362 Eve Rowan Cunnington (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 1,202 Lorraine Nolan (Scottish Conservative and Unionist) 296 Colin Robb (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 168 Rosemary McGowan (Scottish Green Party) 46 Can someone explain to me how the Labour candidate could be declared elected on the basis of first pref votes only when they have less than 50%%? I of course understand that its unlikely that the transferred votes of the Green, Lib Dem and Tory candidates would go in large numbers to theSNP, but I was still puzzled at such a fast declaration. Do they already have the transfer stages and just haven't bothered to announce them, or has the SNP candidate already conceded. or what? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 19, 2019 22:44:43 GMT
NORTH LANARKSHIRE Thorniewood First preferences Norah Mooney (Scottish Labour Party) 1,362 Eve Rowan Cunnington (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 1,202 Lorraine Nolan (Scottish Conservative and Unionist) 296 Colin Robb (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 168 Rosemary McGowan (Scottish Green Party) 46 Can someone explain to me how the Labour candidate could be declared elected on the basis of first pref votes only when they have less than 50%%? I of course understand that its unlikely that the transferred votes of the Green, Lib Dem and Tory candidates would go in large numbers to theSNP, but I was still puzzled at such a fast declaration. Do they already have the transfer stages and just haven't bothered to announce them, or has the SNP candidate already conceded. or what? The subsequent rounds have taken place, but haven't been published yet. Scottish byelections are counted by optical vote reader so they can be declared quickly. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 19, 2019 22:45:06 GMT
NORTH LANARKSHIRE Thorniewood First preferences Norah Mooney (Scottish Labour Party) 1,362 Eve Rowan Cunnington (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 1,202 Lorraine Nolan (Scottish Conservative and Unionist) 296 Colin Robb (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 168 Rosemary McGowan (Scottish Green Party) 46 Can someone explain to me how the Labour candidate could be declared elected on the basis of first pref votes only when they have less than 50%%? I of course understand that its unlikely that the transferred votes of the Green, Lib Dem and Tory candidates would go in large numbers to theSNP, but I was still puzzled at such a fast declaration. Do they already have the transfer stages and just haven't bothered to announce them, or has the SNP candidate already conceded. or what? I think they have electronic counting machines. |
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Sept 19, 2019 22:45:38 GMT
NORTH LANARKSHIRE Thorniewood First preferences Norah Mooney (Scottish Labour Party) 1,362 Eve Rowan Cunnington (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 1,202 Lorraine Nolan (Scottish Conservative and Unionist) 296 Colin Robb (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 168 Rosemary McGowan (Scottish Green Party) 46 Can someone explain to me how the Labour candidate could be declared elected on the basis of first pref votes only when they have less than 50%%? I of course understand that its unlikely that the transferred votes of the Green, Lib Dem and Tory candidates would go in large numbers to theSNP, but I was still puzzled at such a fast declaration. Do they already have the transfer stages and just haven't bothered to announce them, or has the SNP candidate already conceded. or what? The Labour candidate was elected at stage 5, not 1. It would've been a fairly quick one because they only had to redistribute 510 votes |
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Post by tonygreaves on Sept 19, 2019 22:46:49 GMT
Hm. Takes all the fun out of it.
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 19, 2019 22:47:16 GMT
NORTH LANARKSHIRE Thorniewood First preferences Norah Mooney (Scottish Labour Party) 1,362 Eve Rowan Cunnington (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 1,202 Lorraine Nolan (Scottish Conservative and Unionist) 296 Colin Robb (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 168 Rosemary McGowan (Scottish Green Party) 46 Can someone explain to me how the Labour candidate could be declared elected on the basis of first pref votes only when they have less than 50%%? I of course understand that its unlikely that the transferred votes of the Green, Lib Dem and Tory candidates would go in large numbers to theSNP, but I was still puzzled at such a fast declaration. Do they already have the transfer stages and just haven't bothered to announce them, or has the SNP candidate already conceded. or what? Well, presumably it was electronic in which case once you have all the votes recorded it is practically instantaneous. We are not talking about cpu intensive calculations here |
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Post by iain on Sept 19, 2019 22:52:26 GMT
Labour have held Fulham Broadway, Lib Dems in second.
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Post by yellowperil on Sept 19, 2019 22:52:33 GMT
I don't remember such a relatively quick count in Scottish by-elections before - maybe because we were waiting for the later stages to be published?
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 19, 2019 22:56:17 GMT
Hmmm! Nice. 9.2% Swing Labour to Conservative. 0.35% swing from Lib to Lib Dem!! |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 19, 2019 22:57:37 GMT
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Post by yellowperil on Sept 19, 2019 23:01:51 GMT
I'm not doing the prediction comp at present but I had my own forecast in raw votes , not just percentages, written down for Chestfield, which indeed has been one of the most solidly posh Tory villages in Kent. I had it down as Con 700, LD 550 -Actual was Con 728, LD 562. On the lesser places Labour did slightly better and the Greens and the Indy slightly worse than I expected, but still a remarkable turn around.
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