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Post by yellowperil on Jul 27, 2019 15:58:21 GMT
The Greens may do fairly well here too I agree . So the contest between Labour and Cons might be for third/fourth place?  |
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 27, 2019 16:05:35 GMT
I wonder if Richard Allan wants his old job back. He's only about 50 IIRC.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 27, 2019 16:10:01 GMT
Possible parties that might stand, (In no particular order) The Brexit Party Official Monster Raving Loony Party Conservatives Yorkshire Party Trade Union and Socialist Coalition Green Party Liberal Democrats UKIP English Democrats Women's Equality Party Labour Party Probably missed some
The Social Democratic Party stood in Sheffield Hallam in 2017, garnering a whole 70 votes.
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Post by cogload on Jul 27, 2019 16:13:24 GMT
I wonder if Richard Allan wants his old job back. He's only about 50 IIRC. Earning too much cash for.....Facebook Now who else does that apply too? |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 27, 2019 16:20:29 GMT
I wonder if Richard Allan wants his old job back. He's only about 50 IIRC. He'd have to resign from the Lords, and fight Laura Gordon for the nomination - unless he stands under another label. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 27, 2019 16:22:20 GMT
I wonder if Richard Allan wants his old job back. He's only about 50 IIRC. He'd have to resign from the Lords, and fight Laura Gordon for the nomination - unless he stands under another label. Should have checked, I didn't know he was in the Lords. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Jul 27, 2019 16:24:18 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 27, 2019 16:24:39 GMT
He's a poet and he doesn't know it. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Jul 27, 2019 16:27:04 GMT
He's a poet and he doesn't know it. I remember "Allan for Hallam" from the 1997 election. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 27, 2019 16:28:50 GMT
He's a poet and he doesn't know it. I remember "Allan for Hallam" from the 1997 election. From the same city that gave us "Hooley for Heeley".  |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jul 27, 2019 16:34:32 GMT
I am not sure who will move the writ since he is no longer a Labour MP. I think the earliest it could be held is 10th October but I may be wrong about that. He is saying he needs to wait until Parliament reassembles on 3rd September but I am not aware that you cannot apply for the Chiltern Hundreds during the recess. It would not make any difference to the date of any by-election. My guess is Labour would move the writ, partly as I think it reverts to the Party for which the resigning Member was originally elected (IIRC they moved Peterborough despite Onasanya’s expulsion), but also they’ve been pretty clear this week they’ve been in contact with O’Mara regarding mental health support, so it’s no great leap to advise him on his resignation. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jul 27, 2019 16:38:08 GMT
Have any other parties selected their prospective candidates yet, other than Labour – Olivia Blake Liberal Democrats - Laura Gordon (All woman short list so far) No mention here of a possible anti Brexit coalition as in Brecon and Radnorshire; Greens or LDs getting a free ride at Labour and Conservatives? |
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Post by froome on Jul 27, 2019 16:40:20 GMT
Have any other parties selected their prospective candidates yet, other than Labour – Olivia Blake Liberal Democrats - Laura Gordon (All woman short list so far) I don't know if we have selected yet, but it would be interesting if Natalie Bennett stood. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 27, 2019 16:41:32 GMT
Have any other parties selected their prospective candidates yet, other than Labour – Olivia Blake Liberal Democrats - Laura Gordon (All woman short list so far) No mention here of a possible anti Brexit coalition as in Brecon and Radnorshire; Greens or LDs getting a free ride at Labour and Conservatives? Labour, Greens and LDs alike are all in a struggle for relevance and supremacy in Sheffield. For the Greens to stand aside for the LDs would surely raise eyebrows in the city, especially in the wards in which they are competitive? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 16:42:03 GMT
Lib Dem gain is the obvious outcome here but I'm going to play it safe and say it's not a definite win. I do think that Labour will come second here (except in the unlikely scenario in which they do win it). That's not to say that the Greens don't have the potential to do okay here - and it is certainly somewhere where LD-Green co-operation is less likely (although I've seen one Green activist already suggest standing down here in return for Sheffield Central in the next GE).
My guess is Lib Dems, Labour, Conservatives, Brexit Party and the Greens in that order all running and keeping their deposits.
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 27, 2019 16:42:29 GMT
No mention here of a possible anti Brexit coalition as in Brecon and Radnorshire; Greens or LDs getting a free ride at Labour and Conservatives? Labour, Greens and LDs alike are all in a struggle for relevance and supremacy in Sheffield. For the Greens to stand aside for the LDs would surely raise eyebrows in the city, especially in the wards in which they are competitive? They'd be mad to do it.
EDIT: Although as someone has just pointed out, if they got a free run at Central, that would certainly be worth it.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 27, 2019 16:46:33 GMT
I do recall our local Greens standing down in Cheadle for the GE, in return for the LDs standing down in the Edgeley & Cheadle Heath ward in 2018. Which they then did not.
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Post by timmullen1 on Jul 27, 2019 16:53:07 GMT
No mention here of a possible anti Brexit coalition as in Brecon and Radnorshire; Greens or LDs getting a free ride at Labour and Conservatives? Labour, Greens and LDs alike are all in a struggle for relevance and supremacy in Sheffield. For the Greens to stand aside for the LDs would surely raise eyebrows in the city, especially in the wards in which they are competitive? That’s why I left it “or” as they’d probably need pistols at dawn to reach an agreement. I haven’t looked at Ward results to see if one is clearly stronger than the other in Hallam so purposely left it open. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 27, 2019 16:56:03 GMT
Lib Dem gain is the obvious outcome here but I'm going to play it safe and say it's not a definite win. I do think that Labour will come second here (except in the unlikely scenario in which they do win it). That's not to say that the Greens don't have the potential to do okay here - and it is certainly somewhere where LD-Green co-operation is less likely (although I've seen one Green activist already suggest standing down here in return for Sheffield Central in the next GE). My guess is Lib Dems, Labour, Conservatives, Brexit Party and the Greens in that order all running and keeping their deposits. That expectations management module is proving popular on the Lib Dem online training hub.
It's a definite win.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 16:56:58 GMT
Labour, Greens and LDs alike are all in a struggle for relevance and supremacy in Sheffield. For the Greens to stand aside for the LDs would surely raise eyebrows in the city, especially in the wards in which they are competitive? That’s why I left it “or” as they’d probably need pistols at dawn to reach an agreement. I haven’t looked at Ward results to see if one is clearly stronger than the other in Hallam so purposely left it open. Lib Dems are clearly ahead of the Greens (and won all 5 seats), although the Green vote share is certainly respectable and just edges out Labour in to 2nd highest. |
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