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Post by LDCaerdydd on May 23, 2019 14:11:22 GMT
We will know when the result is announced shortly after 20th June. But Harry is correct, there is a bar on the reporting of the petition, apart from reporting that the petition is open, residents can sign at ... venue. What we do know is that the Lib Dems and Labour are both protectively encouraging residents to sign.A few tweets, on the issue but not many: twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=brecon%20and%20radnorshire&src=typd What does this mean? They're taking them to the signing venue in an armed convoy? Sorry proactively. |
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Post by mboy on May 29, 2019 22:30:36 GMT
It very inconvenient timing with the Euros now probably on. Will there be the spare resource to campaign for sigs here now? I would have thought this was a far better use of your resources in Wales. Let's face it neither of our parties will come close to getting an MEP in Wales, but you'd have a real chance in this seat... Well, in the end to both of our surprise the LDs came within 1.67% of winning an MEP here  I still think winning an MP would be big deal, though it would likely be a contest against the Brexit Party now... |
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Post by curiousliberal on May 29, 2019 22:46:45 GMT
I would have thought this was a far better use of your resources in Wales. Let's face it neither of our parties will come close to getting an MEP in Wales, but you'd have a real chance in this seat... Well, in the end to both of our surprise the LDs came within 1.67% of winning an MEP here I still think winning an MP would be big deal, though it would likely be a contest against the Brexit Party now... Another three-way split like Peterborough, and heavily dependent on the candidates chosen. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 22:47:06 GMT
I would have thought this was a far better use of your resources in Wales. Let's face it neither of our parties will come close to getting an MEP in Wales, but you'd have a real chance in this seat... Well, in the end to both of our surprise the LDs came within 1.67% of winning an MEP here I still think winning an MP would be big deal, though it would likely be a contest against the Brexit Party now... The Brexit Party won Powys as a whole, Brecon & Radnor had a lower leave vote than Montgomery, so I would still put the Lib Dems as the firm favourites. |
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Post by curiousliberal on May 30, 2019 13:18:38 GMT
The Brexit Party won Powys as a whole, Brecon & Radnor had a lower leave vote than Montgomery, so I would still put the Lib Dems as the firm favourites. I don't think the Re-Call will be effective and I very much hope that it isn't. If there is a by election I hope the Conservatives throw everything they have at it. If they do I think they will be able to stall the LD and win or let the BP through. It is imperative that one of those two stall the LDs. Given the current political climate, they're more likely to stall each other. |
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Post by right on Jun 1, 2019 22:54:57 GMT
As I type 5,811 people in Brecon and Radnorshire have signed a certain petition. I imagine that there will be a large cross-over between people prepared to sign that petition and those willing to sign a recall petition. Game on I reckon. Can you get bots to sign recall petitions? I understand selecting a postcode and making up a name, but surely a recall petition is a bit stricter on things such as being on the electoral roll and physical presence than a parliamentary petition. |
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Post by curiousliberal on Jun 1, 2019 23:02:56 GMT
As I type 5,811 people in Brecon and Radnorshire have signed a certain petition. I imagine that there will be a large cross-over between people prepared to sign that petition and those willing to sign a recall petition. Game on I reckon. Can you get bots to sign recall petitions? I understand selecting a postcode and making up a name, but surely a recall petition is a bit stricter on things such as being on the electoral roll and physical presence than a parliamentary petition. You need a verifiable email address for online petitions. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jun 2, 2019 14:23:28 GMT
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Post by peterl on Jun 2, 2019 15:47:26 GMT
As I type 5,811 people in Brecon and Radnorshire have signed a certain petition. I imagine that there will be a large cross-over between people prepared to sign that petition and those willing to sign a recall petition. Game on I reckon. Can you get bots to sign recall petitions? I understand selecting a postcode and making up a name, but surely a recall petition is a bit stricter on things such as being on the electoral roll and physical presence than a parliamentary petition. AFAIK, you can not sign a recall petiton online, you either must turn up in person or return a signed form in the post, with existing postal voters automatically being sent a form. |
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Post by torremark on Jun 2, 2019 15:57:44 GMT
Can you get bots to sign recall petitions? I understand selecting a postcode and making up a name, but surely a recall petition is a bit stricter on things such as being on the electoral roll and physical presence than a parliamentary petition. AFAIK, you can not sign a recall petiton online, you either must turn up in person or return a signed form in the post, with existing postal voters automatically being sent a form. Well the other petition requires 5300 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 16:10:54 GMT
As I type 5,811 people in Brecon and Radnorshire have signed a certain petition. I imagine that there will be a large cross-over between people prepared to sign that petition and those willing to sign a recall petition. Game on I reckon. Can you get bots to sign recall petitions? I understand selecting a postcode and making up a name, but surely a recall petition is a bit stricter on things such as being on the electoral roll and physical presence than a parliamentary petition. The veracity of all except a negligible proportion of the signatures was confirmed. I'm sure you know this. False information isn't a good basis to get your point across. Besides, even if that petition was never a thing, it is incredibly clear that there's a large number of people in the country that'd rather we didn't leave the EU. That was the only conclusion that could be arrived at from the petition, and it was something confirmed by the EU elections. Something that does not currently have evidence is that such people form a majority of voters - which is a fair point which might be more sensible to focus on. |
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Post by matureleft on Jun 2, 2019 16:33:20 GMT
The result of the petition may fall within the period in which Tory MPs are voting for their two candidates to put to members depending on how quickly the also-rans drop out. I don't see him among those who have declared support for a particular candidate (and I'd guess that those candidates are being careful not to ask him to declare?!). With his Brexit stance you'd expect him to be backing Raab or Johnson, at least at the death.
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Jun 2, 2019 17:31:24 GMT
Er, is he not pushing the law a bit there? |
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Post by thirdchill on Jun 2, 2019 19:06:35 GMT
Er, is he not pushing the law a bit there? Nope. Political parties can do this in recall petitions. See Peterborough. The limitations only apply to councils and government bodies who are limited to letting people know where they can sign the petition but can do nothing to encourage turnout etc. |
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Post by right on Jun 3, 2019 7:32:19 GMT
Can you get bots to sign recall petitions? I understand selecting a postcode and making up a name, but surely a recall petition is a bit stricter on things such as being on the electoral roll and physical presence than a parliamentary petition. The veracity of all except a negligible proportion of the signatures was confirmed. I'm sure you know this. False information isn't a good basis to get your point across. The fact that they were British postcodes were confirmed, unlike the second referendum petition, not that people of that name were living in the postcode (or for that matter that they had signed this, rather than being picked off a list). Hence talking about selecting a postcode. I'm suspecting from your tone that you are not aware that this is the extent of the "veracity". |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 3, 2019 9:25:45 GMT
The vast majority of the signatures on the "revoke A50" petition are genuine, anybody who claims otherwise is just fooling themselves.
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Post by mboy on Jun 3, 2019 9:43:35 GMT
"There are actually only 6 million valid sigs on that petition, how dare you suggest there are 6.1 million!"
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Post by Adrian on Jun 3, 2019 19:38:03 GMT
Surprised there's only one vote for "other". If there's a BXP candidate I'd say there's zero chance of the Tories winning, and a significant chance of the BXP winning. Still, I think it's most likely the LDs will win. LD 45 BXP 30 Con 15 Lab 6 PC 3
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Post by johng on Jun 3, 2019 20:04:13 GMT
Surprised there's only one vote for "other". If there's a BXP candidate I'd say there's zero chance of the Tories winning, and a significant chance of the BXP winning. Still, I think it's most likely the LDs will win. LD 45 BXP 30 Con 15 Lab 6 PC 3
Whilst Peterborough is still very much in the air, a vote here would almost certainly lead to the Lib Dems winning on a relatively large majority.
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Post by rc18 on Jun 3, 2019 22:58:11 GMT
Surprised there's only one vote for "other". If there's a BXP candidate I'd say there's zero chance of the Tories winning, and a significant chance of the BXP winning. Still, I think it's most likely the LDs will win. LD 45 BXP 30 Con 15 Lab 6 PC 3 Whilst Peterborough is still very much in the air, a vote here would almost certainly lead to the Lib Dems winning on a relatively large majority.
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