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Post by ElectionMapsUK on Apr 11, 2019 22:57:05 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 11, 2019 23:16:24 GMT
Gossip says Leith Walk close between SNP and Greens. Result due in a few minutes.
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Post by ElectionMapsUK on Apr 11, 2019 23:24:39 GMT
SNP GAIN FROM LAB
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Post by Robert Waller on Apr 11, 2019 23:38:33 GMT
Leith Walk (Edinburgh) result: first pref:
SNP: 35.7% (+1.4)
GRN: 25.5% (+5.9)
LAB: 15.5% (-7.0)
CON: 10.7% (-3.7)
LDEM: 8.6% (+4.8)
IND (Illingworth): 1.5% (+1.5)
UKIP: 1.2% (+1.2)
SLP: 0.8% (-0.1)
IND (Scott): 0.2% (+0.2)
FBM: 0.2% (+0.2)
LBT: 0.2% (+0.2)
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Post by ElectionMapsUK on Apr 11, 2019 23:39:58 GMT
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Post by john07 on Apr 12, 2019 0:06:37 GMT
The site of the old station is of course be in Leith ward rather than Leith Walk ward... Close enough for a railways link! Not any more unfortunately. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 0:35:13 GMT
I think that must be the worst result in living memory for Labour at any level in the area covered by the Leith Walk ward.
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Post by andrew111 on Apr 12, 2019 5:57:28 GMT
The irony is that the by-elections your using to launch this complaint is caused by the resignation of a councillor who was first elected in an STV by-election and wouldn't have won a seat then or in 2017 under FPTP. Which is not the issue. It's the by election process I have issues with. I support electoral reform but not STV or other preference systems Yes, we don't want to give voters too much choice! They might start choosing candidates who work harder or something daft like that |
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Post by andrew111 on Apr 12, 2019 5:59:52 GMT
Leith Walk has a turnout of 30.3% (7,334 votes). 16 out of 21 ballot boxes are so far adjudicated; the result should come quickly once the final one has completed. That is a huge number of polling stations, especially in an urban area! |
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 12, 2019 6:36:08 GMT
Leith Walk (Edinburgh) result: first pref: SNP: 35.7% (+1.4) GRN: 25.5% (+5.9) LAB: 15.5% (-7.0) CON: 10.7% (-3.7) LDEM: 8.6% (+4.8) IND (Illingworth): 1.5% (+1.5) UKIP: 1.2% (+1.2) SLP: 0.8% (-0.1) IND (Scott): 0.2% (+0.2) FBM: 0.2% (+0.2) LBT: 0.2% (+0.2) At stage 10 it was: SNP 41.6 GRN 38.0 |
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Post by andrew111 on Apr 12, 2019 6:46:53 GMT
Leith Walk (Edinburgh) result: first pref: SNP: 35.7% (+1.4) GRN: 25.5% (+5.9) LAB: 15.5% (-7.0) CON: 10.7% (-3.7) LDEM: 8.6% (+4.8) IND (Illingworth): 1.5% (+1.5) UKIP: 1.2% (+1.2) SLP: 0.8% (-0.1) IND (Scott): 0.2% (+0.2) FBM: 0.2% (+0.2) LBT: 0.2% (+0.2) At stage 10 it was: SNP 41.6 GRN 38.0 Bad luck Greens |
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Post by andrew111 on Apr 12, 2019 7:00:25 GMT
Burnley result Green 51 Tory 115 Labour 249 LibDem 341 BP Independent 154 Think that result is pretty good for the Lib Dems given that the independents are a split from them |
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 12, 2019 7:00:30 GMT
Close enough for a railways link! Not any more unfortunately. I meant metaphorically rather than literally......  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 7:03:35 GMT
Burnley result Green 51 Tory 115 Labour 249 LibDem 341 BP Independent 154 Think that result is pretty good for the Lib Dems given that the independents are a split from them where you expecting a fall in the share of the vote? |
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 12, 2019 8:03:42 GMT
Which is not the issue. It's the by election process I have issues with. I support electoral reform but not STV or other preference systems Yes, we don't want to give voters too much choice! They might start choosing candidates who work harder or something daft like that Oh, that old take the politics out of politics nonsense. So called community politics - utter waste of time and yet another reason why the LibDems are my least favourite party. In any case most local council casework is a waste of time amd money. Few councillors know what they are doing. I'd get rid of the lot and have much smaller numbers of councillors entirely focusing on making policy and would greatly expand both the citizens advice service and the ombudsmen service to deal with local problems. No more little Napoleons! |
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Post by timmullen1 on Apr 12, 2019 8:07:18 GMT
Yes, we don't want to give voters too much choice! They might start choosing candidates who work harder or something daft like that Oh, that old take the politics out of politics nonsense. So called community politics - utter waste of time and yet another reason why the LibDems are my least favourite party. In any case most local council casework is a waste of time amd money. Few councillors know what they are doing. I'd get rid of the lot and have much smaller numbers of councillors entirely focusing on making policy and would greatly expand both the citizens advice service and the ombudsmen service to deal with local problems. No more little Napoleons! Having spent 15 years training Citizens’ Advice volunteers I can think of few things more inappropriate and downright dangerous. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Apr 12, 2019 8:07:37 GMT
Think that result is pretty good for the Lib Dems given that the independents are a split from them where you expecting a fall in the share of the vote? Difficult to tell when a new - especially a localist - party intervenes where they have not stood before. And in the case where it was one of ours who had defected that way, there must have been a worry about large-scale peel-off of votes. As it happens, we had enough margin to withstand some loss, and Labour also suffered from the BPI intervention. I think we can be satisfied on this occasion, and expect the BPI vote to fall away next time. |
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 12, 2019 8:27:59 GMT
Oh, that old take the politics out of politics nonsense. So called community politics - utter waste of time and yet another reason why the LibDems are my least favourite party. In any case most local council casework is a waste of time amd money. Few councillors know what they are doing. I'd get rid of the lot and have much smaller numbers of councillors entirely focusing on making policy and would greatly expand both the citizens advice service and the ombudsmen service to deal with local problems. No more little Napoleons! Having spent 15 years training Citizens’ Advice volunteers I can think of few things more inappropriate and downright dangerous. Having the service run by volunteers is the main problem. I have been both a deputy manager and a management committee member of CABx. They do the best they can but it's not sufficiently well resourced. However they do far more use that the bulk of local councillors who are time wasting busybodies irrespective of party. Moving to the cabinet system has made most of them superfluous to requirements. I would also abolish the second chamber and stop Mps doing so-called casework which does nothing but waste the time of those trying their best to do a difficult job. The time MPs waste on that could be spent doing proper scrutiny work. Again with teeth - not the farcical excuse for it which goes on at local government level. It really makes hardly any difference who runs local councils these days. They run few services directly, can't set the budget they want, and most of the expenditure is prescribed - adult social care etc. The rhetoric changes but what a council can really do is so limited. Labour councillors can do little but impose central government cuts in a less damaging way. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 12, 2019 8:35:48 GMT
EDINBURGH Leith Walk
Candidate Party I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X
ALEXANDER Steven UKIP 85 + 3 88 + 9 97 97 + 1 98 - 98 - - - - -
CALDWELL Jack L Dem 623 + 1 624 624 + 2 626 + 2 628 + 5 633 + 19 652 -652 - - -
GARDNER Nick Lab 1,123 + 1 1,124 1,124 + 2 1,126 + 10 1,136 + 4 1,140 + 17 1,157 +163 1,320 +177 1,497 -1,497 -
ILLINGWORTH Kevin Ind 110 + 2 112 112 + 10 122 + 4 126 + 17 143 -143 - - - -
JACOBSEN David Don S Lab P 56 56 56 56 - 56 - - - - - -
LAIRD Tom Scottish Lbt 12 - 12 - - - - - - - - -
MCCROSKRIE Dan C 777 777 + 2 779 + 2 781 + 3 784 + 27 811 + 14 825 + 87 912 -912 - -
MUNN Rob SNP 2,596 + 2 2,598 2,598 2,598 + 14 2,612 + 4 2,616 + 14 2,630 + 91 2,721 + 42 2,763 + 258 3,021
SCOTT John Ferguson Ind 16 16 16 - 16 - - - - - - -
SLATER Lorna SGP 1,855 + 1 1,856 1,856 1,856 + 9 1,865 + 4 1,869 + 35 1,904 +189 2,093 +130 2,223 + 542 2,765
STIRLING Paul Mitchell FBM 14 14 - 14 - - - - - - - -
Not transferrable + 2 2 + 3 5 5 + 13 18 + 37 55 + 44 99 +122 221 +563 784 + 697 1,481
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 12, 2019 8:36:45 GMT
Leith Walk (Edinburgh) result: first pref: SNP: 35.7% (+1.4) GRN: 25.5% (+5.9) LAB: 15.5% (-7.0) CON: 10.7% (-3.7) LDEM: 8.6% (+4.8) IND (Illingworth): 1.5% (+1.5) UKIP: 1.2% (+1.2) SLP: 0.8% (-0.1) IND (Scott): 0.2% (+0.2) FBM: 0.2% (+0.2) LBT: 0.2% (+0.2) So a few comments: It's about par for the course for the SNP, but they won the seat so they'll be happy. We did better than I expected, I thought we might pip Labour for second, but to beat them by 10% exceeded my expectations and we pushed the SNP quite close on transfers. This is the SGP's best performance in a by-election ever. Extremely poor performance by Labour. Conservatives also down, which is different from most Scottish by-elections - may be a quirk of the area, a consequence of them starting in 4th... It's not something I would read too much into yet until we see it in other places. Lib Dems achieved a healthy boost to their vote. Whether that would be matched in an all out election when other wards may be using up resources, I don't know but at least they're heading the right way. |
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