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Post by heslingtonian on Mar 2, 2019 15:09:45 GMT
It was the same seat he had lost in the 1997 GE wasn't it? (and indeed he is still there now) Indeed although he didn't win it in 2001 - he came back again in 2005. There were quite a few other defeated MPs who did try for a comeback in their original seat in 2001 and lost again [b Going a bit off topic here but I think an interesting topic is that election landslides can sometimes prevent people who have just started their Parliamentary careers and who are destined for senior Government roles from realising their full potential. In 1997 a good example is Angela Knight who never returned to the Commons but was very highly rated in the one Parliamentary term she served and became a Minister very quickly. Her subsequent career was quite successful in the private sector and had she been elected ten years earlier I think she could easily have become a Chancellor or even Prime Minister. I’m sure there are other examples, possibly Douglas Alexander is one from Labour’s perspective. |
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 4, 2019 11:05:54 GMT
No he really isn't a good example, for more reasons than one (not least that he became an MP just months after the 1997 GE)
There were quite a few highly talented Labour people who spent their best years in opposition come the 1979-97 period, though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 11:21:51 GMT
Yeah, DA had seven years in government including four as a cabinet minister. A notable feature of all but the most exceptional political careers in the postwar GB context is if you get that as *much* as that you should be able to retire fairly content. (which invites the question as to why so many capable people think that "a safe seat for life and wait for the electoral cycle to do its work" is a good way to spend your adult life - but I digress...)
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Post by greenhert on Mar 4, 2019 12:48:09 GMT
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 4, 2019 17:05:44 GMT
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Post by matureleft on Mar 6, 2019 8:25:19 GMT
Indeed although he didn't win it in 2001 - he came back again in 2005. There were quite a few other defeated MPs who did try for a comeback in their original seat in 2001 and lost again [b Going a bit off topic here but I think an interesting topic is that election landslides can sometimes prevent people who have just started their Parliamentary careers and who are destined for senior Government roles from realising their full potential. In 1997 a good example is Angela Knight who never returned to the Commons but was very highly rated in the one Parliamentary term she served and became a Minister very quickly. Her subsequent career was quite successful in the private sector and had she been elected ten years earlier I think she could easily have become a Chancellor or even Prime Minister. I’m sure there are other examples, possibly Douglas Alexander is one from Labour’s perspective. Yes, she's clearly bright (I encountered her fairly often during the banking crisis period). I seem to recall an uncomfortable divorce around 1997 and she made some reference to that even much later. She had a couple of children who would have been in school then, I think. She may well have made a sensible assessment of family needs and chosen a more stable job with sensible hours. And the prospects for a bright Tory didn't look too great immediately after 1997. She had the skills to earn plenty while still keeping in touch with politics. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 7, 2019 16:09:13 GMT
Lib Dems announce local businessman Ryan Jones (32) as their candidate. He runs a construction firm employing 30 people.
So the candidate list now is:
Labour - Ruth Jones
Conservative - Matthew Evans
Liberal Democrat - Ryan Jones
Plaid Cymru - Jonathan Clark
Green - Amelia Womack
UKIP - Neil Hamilton
Abolish the Welsh Assembly - Richard Suchorzewski
Renew - June Davies
These are all new candidates when compared with the 2017 GE.
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Post by curiousliberal on Mar 7, 2019 16:18:13 GMT
Lib Dems announce local businessman Ryan Jones (32) as their candidate. He runs a construction firm employing 30 people. So the candidate list now is: Labour - Ruth Jones Conservative - Matthew Evans Liberal Democrat - Ryan Jones Plaid Cymru - Jonathan Clark Green - Amelia Womack UKIP - Neil Hamilton Abolish the Welsh Assembly - Richard Suchorzewski Renew - June Davies These are all new candidates when compared with the 2017 GE. In b4 leaflets say "Only Jones can beat the Conservatives" |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 7, 2019 18:28:53 GMT
"Mae'r dudalen hon yn wag" is an accurate translation of ... "this page is empty".  |
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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 7, 2019 18:49:33 GMT
Shouldn't Hamilton be standing for "PA y DU" or is the Welsh for Ukip Wales really "Ukip Wales"?
And isn't it Suchorzewski "Plaid Diddymu Cynulliad Cymru"?
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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 7, 2019 19:10:59 GMT
Where's a Welsh doktorb when you need one?
Ble mae doktorb Cymreig pan fyddwch angen un?
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Post by john07 on Mar 7, 2019 19:23:38 GMT
Or indeed, in some cases, ever Ran for UKIP leader in 2005 against Farage, Campbell-Bannerman and David Noakes. Noakes was a nutcase conspiracy type seeing Common Purpose everywhere. A nutcase in UKIP? There’s a surprise! |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 7, 2019 19:31:43 GMT
"Mae'r dudalen hon yn wag" is an accurate translation of ... "this page is empty". That looks soundly written to me, certainly not google(mis)translate. The chart of the 2017 result is presumably cut and pasted. |
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Post by john07 on Mar 7, 2019 20:38:18 GMT
Where's a Welsh doktorb when you need one? I do not know, the situation has never arisen. Says the Scottish Doktorb? |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 7, 2019 21:50:52 GMT
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Post by john07 on Mar 7, 2019 22:21:10 GMT
Time for the Liberal Party to put up a candidate, Antiochian? Why would the Australian Liberals contest a by-election in the UK? |
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Post by johnloony on Mar 8, 2019 0:13:54 GMT
Time for the Liberal Party to put up a candidate, Antiochian? Why would the Australian Liberals contest a by-election in the UK? Why do you even ask the question, as if to imply that you thought that anybody was ever suggesting that the Liberal Party of Australia would have anything to do with it, even though nobody ever mentioned the Liberal Party of Australia? |
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Post by YL on Mar 8, 2019 10:01:07 GMT
According to various SDP Mark 3 (or whatever it is) people on Twitter, their candidate is somebody called Ian McLean.
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Post by hedgehog on Mar 8, 2019 10:30:23 GMT
According to various SDP Mark 3 (or whatever it is) people on Twitter, their candidate is somebody called Ian McLean. Yes it is |
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 8, 2019 11:34:33 GMT
Time for the Liberal Party to put up a candidate, Antiochian? Why would the Australian Liberals contest a by-election in the UK? The poster in question is an Aussie originally. |
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