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Post by greenchristian on Mar 28, 2019 1:00:51 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some truth behind both urban myths. There have almost certainly been instances of Welsh people making a point of speaking Welsh in the presence of English incomers (though many instances of this will have been dislike of that particular person rather than general sentiment). There have almost certainly been cases of English people living in or visiting Wales complaining about people speaking a "foreign" language which turns out to be Welsh. Though obviously the most extreme examples reflected in the myths are extremely unlikely.
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Post by johnloony on Mar 28, 2019 1:29:08 GMT
It was the introduction of 24 hour news channels in the late 1990s which killed off by-election specials. I remember staying up for the Eddisbury by-election in 1999. I was watching BBC News 24. The declaration was not even broadcast and it was only given a very brief mention after the event, and given a lower priority than several other news stories. I was left feeling annoyed that I had sacrificed a good night's sleep for nothing. Watch that disaster here: Talking of 1999, I am reminded of Hamilton South. The only TV coverage of the result was what seemed to be an indirect programme in which a couple of third-rate English presenters (I forget who) were apparently watching / receiving a specific Scottish programme, and conveying it indirectly to English viewers. They must have missed part of the declaration because the only figures given on screen were the number of votes for the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th placed candidates. No percentages. No figures for the minor candidates. No swings. Worst of all, no mention at all of the SSP which had in fact been in 3rd place with 9.5% of the votes. |
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Post by john07 on Mar 28, 2019 1:30:11 GMT
We heard them speaking in English before they were aware of our presence. Your ears are probably deceiving you. Fluent Welsh speakers frequently drift from English to Welsh and back again probably without realizing they are doing it. I have noticed this many times in Amlwch and other areas of Gwynedd. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 29, 2019 18:43:12 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 29, 2019 18:55:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 19:50:23 GMT
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Post by nelson on Apr 1, 2019 3:46:19 GMT
What do you expect the Labour vote to be? Around 40%?
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Post by Penddu on Apr 1, 2019 11:54:00 GMT
Labour 35-40%
Conservative 30-35%
Plaid 10+%
UKIP 10-%
LD 5+%
Greens 5-%
ATWA/Brexit/Vets/etc 2-3% each
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 12:13:34 GMT
TIG/Change UK missed a trick by not standing here.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 1, 2019 12:53:15 GMT
TIG/Change UK missed a trick by not standing here. I'm not sure about that. I don't think Newport is crying out for the most bourgeois expression of the Remain campaign. |
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Post by greenchristian on Apr 1, 2019 12:54:28 GMT
TIG/Change UK missed a trick by not standing here. Close of nominations was quite some time before they registered as a party. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 1, 2019 12:55:35 GMT
TIG/Change UK missed a trick by not standing here. TIG was formed the day Paul Flynn died, tough ask to find and vet candidate and also remember they've only just registered as a party (too late for this election). But yes, at some point (soon) they need to start contesting seats, otherwise we'll hae the bizar situation of a political party which doesn't contest elections. FWIW I think Renew will poll respectfully well on Thursday given despite the fact they're a new start up party with little infrastructure, experience and knowledge etc. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Apr 1, 2019 13:00:26 GMT
TIG/Change UK missed a trick by not standing here. But yes, at some point (soon) they need to start contesting seats, otherwise we'll hae the bizar situation of a political party which doesn't contest elections. There seems some certainty that they’ll contest a number of Council seats (largely with incumbents who’ve defected with them) and, by their own admission, they’re calculating the UK will participate in the Euro elections where they hope to run sizeable slates in most areas. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 1, 2019 13:02:40 GMT
If we're doing predictions in this tread:
Lab 38%
Con 33%
PC 5.5%
Renew 5%
UKIP 4.5%
LD 4%
Green 4%
Abolish 3%
SDP 2%
D&V 0.5%
For Britain 0.5%
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 1, 2019 13:06:57 GMT
TIG/Change UK missed a trick by not standing here. TIG was formed the day Paul Flynn died, tough ask to find and vet candidate and also remember they've only just registered as a party (too late for this election). But yes, at some point (soon) they need to start contesting seats, otherwise we'll hae the bizar situation of a political party which doesn't contest elections. FWIW I think Renew will poll respectfully well on Thursday given they're a new start up party with little infrastructure, experience and knowledge etc. That doesn't sound like much of a recipe for a respectable vote, or even a 'respectful' one |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 1, 2019 13:10:54 GMT
TIG was formed the day Paul Flynn died, tough ask to find and vet candidate and also remember they've only just registered as a party (too late for this election). But yes, at some point (soon) they need to start contesting seats, otherwise we'll hae the bizar situation of a political party which doesn't contest elections. FWIW I think Renew will poll respectfully well on Thursday given they're a new start up party with little infrastructure, experience and knowledge etc. That doesn't sound like much of a recipe for a respectable vote, or even a 'respectful' one I've put them add 5% in my prediction, which is just above the Lib Dems, but just bellow Plaid. If that happens I'd say that would be a respectable vote for a first time party with little infrastructure, experience and knowledge wouldn't you? |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 1, 2019 13:17:49 GMT
Yes that would be a very respectable vote for a fringe London based party but I don't understand why you think their lack of infrastructure and experience should lead to them getting such a respectable vote
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Post by Chris from Brum on Apr 1, 2019 13:21:16 GMT
TIG was formed the day Paul Flynn died, tough ask to find and vet candidate and also remember they've only just registered as a party (too late for this election). But yes, at some point (soon) they need to start contesting seats, otherwise we'll have the bizarre situation of a political party which doesn't contest elections. FWIW I think Renew will poll respectfully well on Thursday given they're a new start up party with little infrastructure, experience and knowledge etc. The nutters of the hard/far left have traditionally been far keener on waving placards than actually standing for election, haven't they? |
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Post by timrollpickering on Apr 1, 2019 13:28:44 GMT
But yes, at some point (soon) they need to start contesting seats, otherwise we'll hae the bizar situation of a political party which doesn't contest elections. There seems some certainty that they’ll contest a number of Council seats (largely with incumbents who’ve defected with them) and, by their own admission, they’re calculating the UK will participate in the Euro elections where they hope to run sizeable slates in most areas. They're not yet actually fully registered as a party - will everything be sorted in time for them to have their name on ballot papers for May? Especially if Change.org.uk's objections to the name are registered and taken seriously. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 1, 2019 13:30:13 GMT
They've got two days then
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