Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Mar 27, 2019 14:30:15 GMT
Can I say that there has been more discussion about Newport West here than on either BBC Wales, ITV Wales or even S4C (and given its closeness to England, could turnout be very low indeed)?
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 27, 2019 14:42:59 GMT
Can I say that there has been more discussion about Newport West here than on either BBC Wales, ITV Wales or even S4C (and given its closeness to England, could turnout be very low indeed)? That is cos we is better, cleverer etc than they are Harry.  |
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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 27, 2019 15:06:34 GMT
Can I say that there has been more discussion about Newport West here than on either BBC Wales, ITV Wales or even S4C (and given its closeness to England, could turnout be very low indeed)? Is this one of the parts of Wales where television aerials historically point to England based transmitters? |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 27, 2019 16:06:32 GMT
No, this would be an area so close to England (both Somerset and Gloucestershire) that houses could easily pick up Channel 4 and S4C. In the 2011 Census Newport (the whole county) has the second highest level of people with no knowledge of the Welsh Language, only Blaenau Gwent recorded a higher level: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Welsh_areas_by_percentage_of_Welsh-speakers Harry Hayfield I don't see how Newport West's closeness to England could affect the turnout? |
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Post by greenhert on Mar 27, 2019 16:47:18 GMT
Can I say that there has been more discussion about Newport West here than on either BBC Wales, ITV Wales or even S4C (and given its closeness to England, could turnout be very low indeed)? The age of by-election reporting is dead, Harry. But not buried. If I had time I would conduct an independent report on the Newport West by-election. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 17:08:20 GMT
By-election coverage used to be good.
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Post by curiousliberal on Mar 27, 2019 17:10:34 GMT
Can I say that there has been more discussion about Newport West here than on either BBC Wales, ITV Wales or even S4C (and given its closeness to England, could turnout be very low indeed)? The age of by-election reporting is dead, Harry. If we had a 'slow news day' or three, or the winner of the contest wasn't already fairly obvious, you would see more coverage. As it is, this is going to be a firm Labour victory and Brexit proceedings have gripped both the country and the media. If I recall correctly, Witney, Richmond Park, and (to a lesser extent) Lewisham East all got better coverage: this is a shame, but an isolated one. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Mar 27, 2019 17:12:29 GMT
By-election coverage used to be good. It was the introduction of 24 hour news channels in the late 1990s which killed off by-election specials. I remember staying up for the Eddisbury by-election in 1999. I was watching BBC News 24. The declaration was not even broadcast and it was only given a very brief mention after the event, and given a lower priority than several other news stories. I was left feeling annoyed that I had sacrificed a good night's sleep for nothing. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 27, 2019 17:15:04 GMT
By-election coverage used to be good. It was the introduction of 24 hour news channels in the late 1990s which killed off by-election specials. I remember staying up for the Eddisbury by-election in 1999. I was watching BBC News 24. The declaration was not even broadcast and it was only given a very brief mention after the event, and given a lower priority than several other news stories. I was left feeling annoyed that I had sacrificed a good night's sleep for nothing. Watch that disaster here: |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 17:16:18 GMT
Incidentally, I am sure that 99.999% of the people describing this# as an urban myth believe firmly in the "walked into a pub/shop and they all switched to speaking Welsh" story. And that 99.999% of those convinced that this is true would firmly describe the "walked into a pub/shop..." story as an urban myth. Personally I suspect both are urban myths. # The "lady in a hijab speaking Welsh" story. My family and I used to visit Gwynedd, I think one of the more culturally Welsh areas of Wales (if that makes sense) fairly regularly. We had no doubt that this was went on. |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 27, 2019 17:18:46 GMT
Incidentally, I am sure that 99.999% of the people describing this# as an urban myth believe firmly in the "walked into a pub/shop and they all switched to speaking Welsh" story. And that 99.999% of those convinced that this is true would firmly describe the "walked into a pub/shop..." story as an urban myth. Personally I suspect both are urban myths. # The "lady in a hijab speaking Welsh" story. My family and I used to visit Gwynedd, I think one of the more culturally Welsh areas of Wales (if that makes sense) fairly regularly. We had no doubt that this was went on. I think it's more that in many of those areas the language of conversation is Welsh. It's not a case of switching |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 17:21:53 GMT
By-election coverage used to be good. I think the best by-election coverage I've seen over the past 15 years or so was for Crewe and Nantwich. Presumably the broadcasters got a sudden injection of adrenaline over it because it was the first real potential Tory gain from Labour in many a year. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 17:28:48 GMT
It was the introduction of 24 hour news channels in the late 1990s which killed off by-election specials. I remember staying up for the Eddisbury by-election in 1999. I was watching BBC News 24. The declaration was not even broadcast and it was only given a very brief mention after the event, and given a lower priority than several other news stories. I was left feeling annoyed that I had sacrificed a good night's sleep for nothing. Watch that disaster here: The reporter talks there of the result being closer than expected, but I was under the impression that there had actually been some expectations of Labour gaining the seat. Or did that change as polling day got closer? |
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Post by AdminSTB on Mar 27, 2019 17:31:53 GMT
Watch that disaster here: The reporter talks there of the result being closer than expected, but I was under the impression that there had actually been some expectations of Labour gaining the seat. Or did that change as polling day got closer? All the national polls were pointing to a Labour gain. Nevertheless it was a very good result for Labour because the swing against them was very low. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 27, 2019 19:12:00 GMT
Not sure national polls have ever predicted specific Parliamentary byelections. A government party gaining a seat in a byelection is a very rare thing indeed.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 27, 2019 19:19:07 GMT
By-election coverage used to be good. I think the best by-election coverage I've seen over the past 15 years or so was for Crewe and Nantwich. Presumably the broadcasters got a sudden injection of adrenaline over it because it was the first real potential Tory gain from Labour in many a year. Surely it was because it was such an attractive place to visit?  (And easy to reach from the places the relevant broadcasters and journalists are based.) |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 27, 2019 19:20:28 GMT
Incidentally, I am sure that 99.999% of the people describing this# as an urban myth believe firmly in the "walked into a pub/shop and they all switched to speaking Welsh" story. And that 99.999% of those convinced that this is true would firmly describe the "walked into a pub/shop..." story as an urban myth. Personally I suspect both are urban myths. # The "lady in a hijab speaking Welsh" story. My family and I used to visit Gwynedd, I think one of the more culturally Welsh areas of Wales (if that makes sense) fairly regularly. We had no doubt that this was went on. And I have visited Gwynedd many times over the years and have never, ever, ever experienced it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 21:09:15 GMT
I don't doubt that, I'm just relaying our experiences |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 27, 2019 22:11:54 GMT
I don't doubt that, I'm just relaying our experiences Obvious question, but how do you know that the local Welsh folk in the local pub were speaking English to start of with? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 22:14:28 GMT
We heard them speaking in English before they were aware of our presence.
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