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Post by lbarnes on Sept 18, 2019 8:35:09 GMT
The late Oswald Mosley has today joined the Lib Dems. Jo Swinson has said that you need to look past his previous views and focus on his long history of advocating membership of the European project. I think the Liberals were the only party he wasn't a member of. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 18, 2019 8:36:53 GMT
The late Oswald Mosley has today joined the Lib Dems. Jo Swinson has said that you need to look past his previous views and focus on his long history of advocating membership of the European project. I think the Liberals were the only party he wasn't a member of. He got on very well with Lloyd George at one point. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 8:38:11 GMT
I think the Liberals were the only party he wasn't a member of. He got on very well with Lloyd George at one point. David Lloyd George said and did some rather dubious things in later life, so that's hardly surprising. |
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Post by polaris on Sept 18, 2019 8:38:16 GMT
I think the Liberals were the only party he wasn't a member of. He got on very well with Lloyd George at one point. Apparently Lloyd George's views got a bit dodgy in the 1930's. |
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Post by lbarnes on Sept 18, 2019 8:42:11 GMT
I think the Liberals were the only party he wasn't a member of. He got on very well with Lloyd George at one point. I don't think it was ever with the view to becoming a party member. He resigned from Labour after becoming active in fascism rather than being booted out. You have to vote Lib Dem to suffer that fate. |
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Post by john07 on Sept 19, 2019 0:52:09 GMT
He got on very well with Lloyd George at one point. I don't think it was ever with the view to becoming a party member. He resigned from Labour after becoming active in fascism rather than being booted out. You have to vote Lib Dem to suffer that fate. It all depends how the New Party is classified. Moseley resigned from Labour when he formed the New Party, largely composed of former Labour supporters. This followed the Moseley Memorandum which was signed by a number of left-wing Labour MPs including Nye Bevan and John Strachey and nearly was carried at the 1930 Labour Party Conference. Most who did follow Moseley didn't last very long in the New Party, a couple of days in some cases. The New Party certainly turned towards fascism later but had shed most of its early members in the process. |
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 19, 2019 7:54:10 GMT
I don't think it was ever with the view to becoming a party member. He resigned from Labour after becoming active in fascism rather than being booted out. You have to vote Lib Dem to suffer that fate. It all depends how the New Party is classified. Moseley resigned from Labour when he formed the New Party, largely composed of former Labour supporters. This followed the Moseley Memorandum which was signed by a number of left-wing Labour MPs including Nye Bevan and John Strachey and nearly was carried at the 1930 Labour Party Conference. Most who did follow Moseley didn't last very long in the New Party, a couple of days in some cases. The New Party certainly turned towards fascism later but had shed most of its early members in the process. It was probably a sign of the direction of travel that the New Party formed a militia known as the "Biff Boys". |
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 19, 2019 11:02:36 GMT
It all depends how the New Party is classified. Moseley resigned from Labour when he formed the New Party, largely composed of former Labour supporters. This followed the Moseley Memorandum which was signed by a number of left-wing Labour MPs including Nye Bevan and John Strachey and nearly was carried at the 1930 Labour Party Conference. Most who did follow Moseley didn't last very long in the New Party, a couple of days in some cases. The New Party certainly turned towards fascism later but had shed most of its early members in the process. It was probably a sign of the direction of travel that the New Party formed a militia known as the "Biff Boys".
Not uncommon in the interwar period. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 19, 2019 11:08:53 GMT
The 'Biff Boys' were trained by Teddy 'Kid' Lewis - a former champion welterweight boxer who was New Party candidate in Whitechapel and St George's division in 1931.
With true irony, Lewis was Jewish and from the same East End Jewish community that the Blackshirts fought at Cable Street.
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 19, 2019 11:19:04 GMT
It was probably a sign of the direction of travel that the New Party formed a militia known as the "Biff Boys".
Not uncommon in the interwar period. Did any of the mainstream Parties form a militia? (possibly in the General Strike??) |
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 19, 2019 11:32:48 GMT
Not uncommon in the interwar period. Did any of the mainstream Parties form a militia? (possibly in the General Strike??)
Tbf I was thinking Europe, not UK. |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 19, 2019 12:14:44 GMT
I always knew that John Major was a weak-kneed, weak-voiced, pathetic ittle stop-gap twerp, and he was a reason for my tearing up my party card during his 'office'. The whole party fell to bits under his lacklustre shrill brittle 'leadersip'.
We now know what a duplicitous, lying, two-faced, disloyal, treacherous humbug cunt you really are. To have the temerity to take court action and instruct another traitor former Conservative to act against a serving Conservative PM. To take ACTION AGAINST a Conservative PM.
That bastard has to be expelled from the party with ignomy and all references to him should be expunged from our records. He is to be shunned and reviled forever. One should spit at the mention of his name and turn one's back in his presence.
Hateful man. Curse him once. twice and thrice. May he come to a bad end.
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Post by lbarnes on Sept 19, 2019 12:18:35 GMT
I always knew that John Major was a weak-kneed, weak-voiced, pathetic ittle stop-gap twerp, and he was a reason for my tearing up my party card during his 'office'. The whole party fell to bits under his lacklustre shrill brittle 'leadersip'. We now know what a duplicitous, lying, two-faced, disloyal, treacherous humbug cunt you really are. To have the temerity to take court action and instruct another traitor former Conservative to act against a serving Conservative PM. To take ACTION AGAINST a Conservative PM. That bastard has to be expelled from the party with ignomy and all references to him should be expunged from our records. He is to be shunned and reviled forever. One should spit at the mention of his name and turn one's back in his presence. Hateful man. Curse him once. twice and thrice. May he come to a bad end. "We" don't "know" anything of the sort. Speak for yourself - why break a lifelong habit? |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 19, 2019 12:24:49 GMT
I always knew that John Major was a weak-kneed, weak-voiced, pathetic ittle stop-gap twerp, and he was a reason for my tearing up my party card during his 'office'. The whole party fell to bits under his lacklustre shrill brittle 'leadersip'. We now know what a duplicitous, lying, two-faced, disloyal, treacherous humbug cunt you really are. To have the temerity to take court action and instruct another traitor former Conservative to act against a serving Conservative PM. To take ACTION AGAINST a Conservative PM. That bastard has to be expelled from the party with ignomy and all references to him should be expunged from our records. He is to be shunned and reviled forever. One should spit at the mention of his name and turn one's back in his presence. Hateful man. Curse him once. twice and thrice. May he come to a bad end. "We" don't "know" anything of the sort. Speak for yourself - why break a lifelong habit? I do and I shall. My view will be widespread I can assure you. I call a spade a spade. And a treacherous bastard an utter cunt. |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 19, 2019 12:35:06 GMT
I do and I shall. My view will be widespread I can assure you. I call a spade a spade. And a treacherous bastard an utter cunt. Then you are certainly a treacherous bastard. Good old reliable markgoodair (where's Tony....never one to pass up on nasty slagging off from the provisional wing of your party) there to 'like' you. Be careful as you are close to breaking Forum protocols. I am permitted to slag off a non-member (on sort of my side) and am not personal against any of you. |
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Post by Jack on Sept 19, 2019 13:32:21 GMT
I always knew that John Major was a weak-kneed, weak-voiced, pathetic ittle stop-gap twerp, and he was a reason for my tearing up my party card during his 'office'. The whole party fell to bits under his lacklustre shrill brittle 'leadersip'. We now know what a duplicitous, lying, two-faced, disloyal, treacherous humbug cunt you really are. To have the temerity to take court action and instruct another traitor former Conservative to act against a serving Conservative PM. To take ACTION AGAINST a Conservative PM. That bastard has to be expelled from the party with ignomy and all references to him should be expunged from our records. He is to be shunned and reviled forever. One should spit at the mention of his name and turn one's back in his presence. Hateful man. Curse him once. twice and thrice. May he come to a bad end. Major is the original sufferer of "Brexit Derangement Syndrome". I'm sure he wouldn't want to be reminded of the time he prorogued parliament to avoid answering awkward questions. Or maybe that was okay because he was doing it? |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 19, 2019 13:40:10 GMT
I always knew that John Major was a weak-kneed, weak-voiced, pathetic ittle stop-gap twerp, and he was a reason for my tearing up my party card during his 'office'. The whole party fell to bits under his lacklustre shrill brittle 'leadersip'. We now know what a duplicitous, lying, two-faced, disloyal, treacherous humbug cunt you really are. To have the temerity to take court action and instruct another traitor former Conservative to act against a serving Conservative PM. To take ACTION AGAINST a Conservative PM. That bastard has to be expelled from the party with ignomy and all references to him should be expunged from our records. He is to be shunned and reviled forever. One should spit at the mention of his name and turn one's back in his presence. Hateful man. Curse him once. twice and thrice. May he come to a bad end. Quoted so that I can enjoy cursing him again. I curse and revile you in the name of the Great Norse God Woden I curse you once I curse you twice And I curse you thrice. Go hence accursed one. |
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Post by neilm on Sept 19, 2019 14:47:18 GMT
I'm with Carlton on this. I wasn't too keen on Major at the time and it is fair to say that amongst the party members I'm friends with he is far from flavour of the month.
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Post by tonyhill on Sept 19, 2019 16:48:09 GMT
I find the vitriolic abuse of Tory Prime Ministers by members of the same party a bit strange. I was, and am, very critical of what Nick Clegg did in coalition, but I have always thought that he was a thoroughly decent person, and I feel that about John Major as well. He has not had the credit he deserves for what he did to lay the foundations of peace in Northern Ireland; for that alone he should be respected.
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 19, 2019 17:08:31 GMT
I always knew that John Major was a weak-kneed, weak-voiced, pathetic ittle stop-gap twerp, and he was a reason for my tearing up my party card during his 'office'. The whole party fell to bits under his lacklustre shrill brittle 'leadersip'. We now know what a duplicitous, lying, two-faced, disloyal, treacherous humbug cunt you really are. To have the temerity to take court action and instruct another traitor former Conservative to act against a serving Conservative PM. To take ACTION AGAINST a Conservative PM. That bastard has to be expelled from the party with ignomy and all references to him should be expunged from our records. He is to be shunned and reviled forever. One should spit at the mention of his name and turn one's back in his presence. Hateful man. Curse him once. twice and thrice. May he come to a bad end. Quoted so that I can enjoy cursing him again. I curse and revile you in the name of the Great Norse God Woden I curse you once I curse you twice And I curse you thrice. Go hence accursed one. Odin is a Norse god, Woden is an Anglo-Saxon god (thus Wednesday in English v Scandinavian Onsdag). |
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