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Post by Merseymike on Apr 2, 2014 14:03:03 GMT
I too would struggle to join the Scottish Conservatives - it appears far too much like the North-East Conservative Party. Largely moribund, totally accepting of the economic views of the dominant labour party and largely only existing as a seperate entity because they have vague ill founded fears about the modern world. They are too lazy and sedentary to even bother joining UKIP - whose views they lie much closer too. Even in Hexhamshire - a tory stronghold by any standard, the dominant view is an intolerant form of social democracy. The common consensus is to blame the south for out-competing - indeed they will blame all their problems on anyone and anything infront of lazy big government that is dragging the country down. They still are happy to take the souths handouts though. No wonder they are labour strongholds - anyone with any ambition leaves. I know loads of fellow geordies and mackems with right wing liberal views - but they sure as hell didn't stay in the North-East. Race to the bottom. I would vote Yes for Independence and then get out myself! Interesting - I left the south-east for exactly the same reasons - that I didn't like the dominant philosophy and ideas of the place and didn't feel I belonged there. |
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Post by Pimpernal on Jan 28, 2015 15:52:22 GMT
Not exactly a defection but... does anyone else think James Blunt is a bit UKIPpy?
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Post by Tony Otim on Jan 28, 2015 16:11:35 GMT
You're welcome to him if you want him.
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 28, 2015 18:07:39 GMT
I think he is a bit wanker-y.
Delighted he doesn't support us. Horrible voice, personality to match
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 28, 2015 19:25:41 GMT
There was chatter on Twitter last night that another MEP from UKIP might be about to jump ship to the Tories. Any ideas who it might be?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 28, 2015 19:33:26 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 28, 2015 19:45:28 GMT
Thank you for your informative reply  I do, indeed, not have a Twitter account - and have no plans for that to change  |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 28, 2015 19:51:55 GMT
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Post by Pimpernal on Jan 29, 2015 9:17:43 GMT
There was chatter on Twitter last night that another MEP from UKIP might be about to jump ship to the Tories. Any ideas who it might be? One of the Sunday papers began that rumour - presumably to get in on the Bashir "exclusive"... then we had the Dan Hannan defection rumour - which originally sounded like Dan Hannan was negotiating a UKIP defection to his own party... |
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Post by mrhell on Sept 16, 2015 10:51:18 GMT
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Post by neilm on Sept 16, 2015 11:00:15 GMT
Yes I've just seen that. Seems unlikely tbh. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 16, 2015 11:13:55 GMT
He wishes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 16:09:21 GMT
Tim Farron has said he has been approached by Labour MPs unhappy with Corbyn's election as leader, sparking rumours of defections to the Lib Dems. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11870776/Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-party-live.htmlI find this rather surprising in view of the current state of the Lib Dems and the fact they were in coalition with the Conservatives only a few months ago, also the probability is that any defectors would find themselves out of a job in 2020. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 17, 2015 17:37:37 GMT
The practice of ramping (almost always entirely fictitious) potential defections is weird and undignified. Politicians should cut it out: it isn't as though the public has ever viewed party switching in the most positive of lights.
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Post by iain on Sept 17, 2015 20:57:50 GMT
Tim Farron has said he has been approached by Labour MPs unhappy with Corbyn's election as leader, sparking rumours of defections to the Lib Dems. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11870776/Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-party-live.htmlI find this rather surprising in view of the current state of the Lib Dems and the fact they were in coalition with the Conservatives only a few months ago, also the probability is that any defectors would find themselves out of a job in 2020. The link contains a picture of Diane Abbot with the curious caption: 'Diane Abbot - the next Mayor of London?' |
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Post by right on Sept 17, 2015 21:02:57 GMT
The practice of ramping (almost always entirely fictitious) potential defections is weird and undignified. Politicians should cut it out: it isn't as though the public has ever viewed party switching in the most positive of lights. Defections are the tip of the peeved off iceberg. It's right to be suspicious of potential defectors, but that's not evidence that they are not being discussed. |
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Post by right on Sept 17, 2015 21:06:04 GMT
Tim Farron has said he has been approached by Labour MPs unhappy with Corbyn's election as leader, sparking rumours of defections to the Lib Dems. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11870776/Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-party-live.htmlI find this rather surprising in view of the current state of the Lib Dems and the fact they were in coalition with the Conservatives only a few months ago, also the probability is that any defectors would find themselves out of a job in 2020. With the Lib Dems at the moment, they would need a sizeable liberal vote in their constituency AND strong local following to have any chance of continuing as MP. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 18, 2015 6:30:19 GMT
For all our mockery of dubious defections, never rule out a principled one where they know they will lose but do it because they want to prove a point.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 6:35:19 GMT
For all our mockery of dubious defections, never rule out a principled one where they know they will lose but do it because they want to prove a point. I never do. I never rule out the chance of Leeds getting back into the Premiership either ....... |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 18, 2015 10:04:21 GMT
The real deterrent to any Blairite MP defecting to Tory or even LibDem is that it would discredit their "brand" within Labour horribly.
So I could only see it happening if they felt their "cause" within the party was finished for good. I don't think we are at that point, or even close, yet.
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