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Post by michaelarden on Sept 4, 2024 11:34:02 GMT
Isn't Folkestone a place from which one can enter the Chunnel? Which would make it connected to the underground, just not directly to the Tube. I remind Hon Members that the Tube forms part of the Underground, but not all of the Underground is Tube. Visit a station served by both and you'll be struck by the differences. Particularly if that station is Whitechapel
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Post by uthacalthing on Sept 4, 2024 12:07:37 GMT
Which Underground line is most Labour and which is most Tory?
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Post by aargauer on Sept 4, 2024 12:15:59 GMT
Which Underground line is most Labour and which is most Tory? Well, ignoring the temporal Corbyn situation, Victoria line goes from Walthamstow, through Tottenham and Islington, through central london, Vauxhall and then Brixton. Most tory - none really. Possibly the metropolitan line as it goes through harrow and outer north west london and then into Herts.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 4, 2024 12:26:28 GMT
Which Underground line is most Labour and which is most Tory? Well, ignoring the temporal Corbyn situation, Victoria line goes from Walthamstow, through Tottenham and Islington, through central london, Vauxhall and then Brixton. Most tory - none really. Possibly the metropolitan line as it goes through harrow and outer north west london and then into Herts. The Met line used to be very Tory. For a long time until the 1990s nearly all the stations on the line were in Tory constituencies with the only exceptions being Eurston Square, Kings Cross St Pancras and Farringdon. From 1959 to 1964 only the latter was in other than a Conservative seat and the line passed only very briefly through another Labour seat (Willesden West)
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Post by john07 on Sept 4, 2024 12:36:26 GMT
Isn't Folkestone a place from which one can enter the Chunnel? Which would make it connected to the underground, just not directly to the Tube. I remind Hon Members that the Tube forms part of the Underground, but not all of the Underground is Tube. Visit a station served by both and you'll be struck by the differences. And not all of the Underground is underground. I changed earlier this year at Whitechapel where the Underground was at street level and had to go down to get on the Overground.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 4, 2024 12:51:36 GMT
Well, ignoring the temporal Corbyn situation, Victoria line goes from Walthamstow, through Tottenham and Islington, through central london, Vauxhall and then Brixton. Most tory - none really. Possibly the metropolitan line as it goes through harrow and outer north west london and then into Herts. The Met line used to be very Tory. For a long time until the 1990s nearly all the stations on the line were in Tory constituencies with the only exceptions being Eurston Square, Kings Cross St Pancras and Farringdon. From 1959 to 1964 only the latter was in other than a Conservative seat and the line passed only very briefly through another Labour seat (Willesden West) Both northwestern termini of the Metropolitan are now Lib Dem (Chesham and Amersham).
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Post by batman on Sept 4, 2024 12:55:37 GMT
The Central Line perhaps is now the most Tory as it still serves at least 3 Conservative-held seats (Ruislip, Northwood & Pinner : Epping Forest : Chingford & Woodford Green unless I'm very much mistaken). The Metropolitan still serves two doesn't it. Of course the Underground does not serve the group of Tory seats in outer SE London, but this may change within some of our lifetimes if the Bakerloo is eventually extended to Hayes (not the John McDonnell one, the one in LB Bromley).
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Post by notabrummie on Sept 4, 2024 16:15:06 GMT
WOW! I thought, a whole page of defections in 24 hours. . Then I find that it was just a train spotter's convention. . lol
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Post by ricmk on Sept 4, 2024 16:29:39 GMT
WOW! I thought, a whole page of defections in 24 hours. . Then I find that it was just a train spotter's convention. . lol You realise a whole line defected from the Underground to the Overground not so long ago? Still miss the East London line.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 4, 2024 16:45:30 GMT
WOW! I thought, a whole page of defections in 24 hours. . Then I find that it was just a train spotter's convention. . lol You realise a whole line defected from the Underground to the Overground not so long ago? Still miss the East London line. And a line defected from National Rail (underground) to (TFL) Underground a couple of decades ago.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 4, 2024 17:36:10 GMT
You realise a whole line defected from the Underground to the Overground not so long ago? Still miss the East London line. And a line defected from National Rail (underground) to (TFL) Underground a couple of decades ago. I miss The Drain. The old Bulleid units were quite something!
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 4, 2024 17:49:37 GMT
You realise a whole line defected from the Underground to the Overground not so long ago? Still miss the East London line. And a line defected from National Rail (underground) to (TFL) Underground a couple of decades ago. Purchased by LUL from British Rail, just over three decades ago, just in case anyone wanted to feel old.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 4, 2024 18:25:13 GMT
And a line defected from National Rail (underground) to (TFL) Underground a couple of decades ago. Purchased by LUL from British Rail, just over three decades ago, just in case anyone wanted to feel old. Purchased, but for a purely nominal sum (one whole English pound, in fact).
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Post by john07 on Sept 4, 2024 18:27:01 GMT
WOW! I thought, a whole page of defections in 24 hours. . Then I find that it was just a train spotter's convention. . lol Maybe no-one is defecting at the moment?
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 4, 2024 18:31:26 GMT
And a line defected from National Rail (underground) to (TFL) Underground a couple of decades ago. Purchased by LUL from British Rail, just over three decades ago, just in case anyone wanted to feel old. Wow, that long ago. I was sure it was early noughties. Makes a mess of my Peoples' Judean Popular Front of Judea joke.
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 4, 2024 18:49:25 GMT
Purchased by LUL from British Rail, just over three decades ago, just in case anyone wanted to feel old. Purchased, but for a purely nominal sum (one whole English pound, in fact). Otherwise known as "escape from the hell of privatisation" Imagine the W&C trying to function as an independent operator. Island Line did a decent effort, to be fair.
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 4, 2024 19:10:03 GMT
Purchased by LUL from British Rail, just over three decades ago, just in case anyone wanted to feel old. Purchased, but for a purely nominal sum (one whole English pound, in fact). Compare to the price of a Zone 1 single, paid with cash.
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Post by Foggy on Sept 4, 2024 20:21:42 GMT
Purchased by LUL from British Rail, just over three decades ago, just in case anyone wanted to feel old. Purchased, but for a purely nominal sum (one whole English pound, in fact). What a bargain – that would've cost them £2.70 in today's money!
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Post by ricmk on Sept 5, 2024 7:06:20 GMT
Apologies for going off-topic back onto Councillors but Ross Armour (Oakley, North Northants) Lab->Ind. (Or ‚Not Specified‘ on Council website.
Suspension for unspecified reasons, but he‘s been sacked and replaced as Mayor of Corby so doesn’t sound trivial.
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Post by carolus on Sept 5, 2024 9:01:17 GMT
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