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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on May 30, 2024 10:59:03 GMT
Lazily checking various council websites to see if there are any vacancies or defections I could spot in the last few days before June, I noticed that I'm certain Lancashire now has an increase in non-party councillors. Currently listed as: *Independent Usman Arif (Burnley North East) Mohammed Iqbal MBE (Brierfield and Nelson West) Yousuf Motala (Preston City)
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Azhar Ali OBE (Nelson East)
Sobia Malik (Burnley Central East)
I think all those have been covered previously? Search function is awful, was just making certain! |
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Post by cuthbertbede on May 30, 2024 16:36:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 19:15:59 GMT
Pat Cullen, Royal College of Nursing to Sinn Fein. It's not that much of a surprise if you have ever heard her speak. The cognitive dissonance required to lead a Royal College whilst being a Republican and a nurse running for Sinn Fein in the Border Country, takes some chutzpah. Of course 'Royal College' is merely a name, rather than a specific type of institution. Even if you disagree with the royal patronage it makes sense to be involved with a large professional body/union for your profession. There are a fair few 'royal' learned societies which are active on an all-Ireland basis, and the RNLI is the main lifeboat institution in for the whole of Ireland, too.
That all said... I suppose Sinn Fein's whole thing is not being involved in British institutions. But I don't think it would be hypocritical for say, an SNP, Plaid Cymru or SDLP politician.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 30, 2024 19:23:04 GMT
The cognitive dissonance required to lead a Royal College whilst being a Republican and a nurse running for Sinn Fein in the Border Country, takes some chutzpah. Of course 'Royal College' is a name. Even if you disagree with the royal patronage it makes sense to be involved with a large professional body/union for your profession. There are a fair few 'royal' learned societies which are active on an all-Ireland basis, and the RNLI is the main lifeboat institution in for the whole of Ireland, too. That all said... I suppose Sinn Fein's whole thing is not being involved in British institutions. But I don't think it would be hypocritical for say, an SNP, Plaid Cymru or SDLP politician.
I don't think that's true at all. SF are more than happy to advertise that eg their representatives have worked for the NHS. They don't recognise that Northern Ireland should be under the authority of the British state, but it's a long time since they pretended they didn't engage with it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 19:28:02 GMT
Of course 'Royal College' is a name. Even if you disagree with the royal patronage it makes sense to be involved with a large professional body/union for your profession. There are a fair few 'royal' learned societies which are active on an all-Ireland basis, and the RNLI is the main lifeboat institution in for the whole of Ireland, too. That all said... I suppose Sinn Fein's whole thing is not being involved in British institutions. But I don't think it would be hypocritical for say, an SNP, Plaid Cymru or SDLP politician.
I don't think that's true at all. SF are more than happy to advertise that eg their representatives have worked for the NHS. They don't recognise that Northern Ireland should be under the authority of the British state, but it's a long time since they pretended they didn't engage with it. Yes, you're quite right. I meant more in terms of their abstentionism from the Commons. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 31, 2024 8:57:18 GMT
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Post by carolus on May 31, 2024 9:13:43 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 31, 2024 17:24:08 GMT
The cognitive dissonance required to lead a Royal College whilst being a Republican and a nurse running for Sinn Fein in the Border Country, takes some chutzpah. Of course 'Royal College' is merely a name, rather than a specific type of institution. Even if you disagree with the royal patronage it makes sense to be involved with a large professional body/union for your profession. There are a fair few 'royal' learned societies which are active on an all-Ireland basis, and the RNLI is the main lifeboat institution in for the whole of Ireland, too.
That all said... I suppose Sinn Fein's whole thing is not being involved in British institutions. But I don't think it would be hypocritical for say, an SNP, Plaid Cymru or SDLP politician.
The Shinners often have their Ard Fheis at the arena belonging to the Royal Dublin Society. |
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Post by carolus on Jun 1, 2024 7:35:46 GMT
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Post by Foggy on Jun 1, 2024 17:34:08 GMT
I don't think that's true at all. SF are more than happy to advertise that eg their representatives have worked for the NHS. They don't recognise that Northern Ireland should be under the authority of the British state, but it's a long time since they pretended they didn't engage with it. Yes, you're quite right. I meant more in terms of their abstentionism from the Commons. Mary Lou McDonald's constituency count at the last Dáil election took place at the Royal Dublin Society building. The Crown didn't retreat from the 26 counties as fully as some may think. |
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Post by andrea on Jun 4, 2024 4:39:37 GMT
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Post by jamesdoyle on Jun 4, 2024 16:55:57 GMT
It's a rumour so far, but thought it worth logging: six Tory GE candidates considering defecting to Reform
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Post by greenhert on Jun 4, 2024 18:29:10 GMT
It's a rumour so far, but thought it worth logging: six Tory GE candidates considering defecting to Reform Which six? |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jun 4, 2024 18:37:47 GMT
It's a rumour so far, but thought it worth logging: six Tory GE candidates considering defecting to Reform Which six? If they do so without giving their local party a chance to replace them, that would be dreadful. |
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Post by David on Jun 4, 2024 19:20:04 GMT
If they do so without giving their local party a chance to replace them, that would be dreadful. It would and would make them unworthy of public office in my view. Given the timings it could deny Conservative voters the chance to vote for a candidate of their choice and would be a slap in the face of party workers who toil away, giving up time and energy. Any decent candidate wouldn't do this |
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Post by owainsutton on Jun 4, 2024 19:50:01 GMT
If they do so without giving their local party a chance to replace them, that would be dreadful. It would and would make them unworthy of public office in my view. Given the timings it could deny Conservative voters the chance to vote for a candidate of their choice and would be a slap in the face of party workers who toil away, giving up time and energy. Any decent candidate wouldn't do this Decency? Hah, as if that is involved. It wouldn't be difficult for a defector to pull this stunt. Book an appointment with the council elections office on the last day of nominations. Submit a Notice of Withdrawl form. Once that's confirmed as received, hand over the full set of paperwork for the new nomination. |
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Post by jamesdoyle on Jun 4, 2024 20:11:27 GMT
If they do so without giving their local party a chance to replace them, that would be dreadful. It would and would make them unworthy of public office in my view. Given the timings it could deny Conservative voters the chance to vote for a candidate of their choice and would be a slap in the face of party workers who toil away, giving up time and energy. Any decent candidate wouldn't do this The Conservative party, in no small measure thanks to Boris Johnson leading the way, has resolved itself into a coterie of MPs and candidates for whom self-interest is the major - no, only - factor in how they behave. Witness potential future leaders transparently laying out their stalls for the post-election contest rather than fighting for their party's cause, former MPs running from one end of the country to the other for a 'winnable'seat, years of brazen troughing by any number of MPs, and so on, and so on. You can sit there and say it makes them unworthy of public office - but it's entirely consonant with who they, and the Cons, are. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 4, 2024 20:24:38 GMT
It would and would make them unworthy of public office in my view. Given the timings it could deny Conservative voters the chance to vote for a candidate of their choice and would be a slap in the face of party workers who toil away, giving up time and energy. Any decent candidate wouldn't do this Decency? Hah, as if that is involved. It wouldn't be difficult for a defector to pull this stunt. Book an appointment with the council elections office on the last day of nominations. Submit a Notice of Withdrawl form. Once that's confirmed as received, hand over the full set of paperwork for the new nomination. I have known that happen. Though, to be fair, the candidate had indicated that she was not willing to accept the leaflet the party intended to distribute - but I don't think they realised just how she was going to avoid using it ... |
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Post by Tony Otim on Jun 4, 2024 22:09:26 GMT
Come on, this is classic Farage playbook. Just look at the parliamentary defections thread - it begins with rumours of 8 defections to UKIP two years before there were any.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2024 22:12:12 GMT
And none of the three(?) actual Con-Lab defections in this parliament were rumoured beforehand
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