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Post by aargauer on Mar 24, 2023 15:22:18 GMT
Councillors from a certain ethnic background do seem more likely to switch parties than is the case more generally. I think that at least is a fair observation, and can be made without indulging in unhelpful stereotyping. And much much more likely to move directly from tory to labour or vice versa. Whether based on national polling or their own deselection it tends to affirm their absolute loyalty to the councillor party.
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Post by kevinf on Mar 24, 2023 17:09:57 GMT
Hemant Rae Bhatia and Paul Westley (both Beaumont Leys, Leicester), Labour to Conservative: Both deselections I see from above…
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Post by tonyhill on Mar 24, 2023 17:47:43 GMT
The decision to deselect them was obviously correct in that case.
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Post by matureleft on Mar 24, 2023 17:53:56 GMT
Hemant Rae Bhatia and Paul Westley (both Beaumont Leys, Leicester), Labour to Conservative: Both deselections I see from above… Yup, and these ones certainly made me think that what had seemed a very heavy-handed intervention by the regional party might actually have had some appropriate outcomes…
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Post by aargauer on Mar 24, 2023 18:53:52 GMT
The decision to deselect them was obviously correct in that case. Indeed. But the total number deselected was worryingly high. If labour don't think so many of their own representatives did a good job, why should anyone else? This isn't a council where the tories should be getting a look in when they are 15 points behind nationally but the local labour group seem intent on giving them a route.
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Post by mattbewilson on Mar 25, 2023 0:21:54 GMT
I'm very sorry to see Paul join the Conservatives.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 25, 2023 7:57:51 GMT
I'm very sorry to see Paul join the Conservatives. Any idea why he would join the Conservatives, deselection or not?
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Post by mattbewilson on Mar 25, 2023 10:33:06 GMT
I'm very sorry to see Paul join the Conservatives. Any idea why he would join the Conservatives, deselection or not? I can't imagine he'd have ever left if he couldn't stand for Labour. Paul is a moderate who would be happy with direction under the leadership of KS. Unlike Patrick whose on the left the Greens seem like an an obvious alternative. Paul would be more attracted to the Tories or Lib Dems. Though as people have mentioned the Lib Dems have quite the record in Leicester
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 25, 2023 10:44:38 GMT
There's no excuse for joining the Tories, quite frankly.
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Post by mattbewilson on Mar 25, 2023 10:47:13 GMT
There's no excuse for joining the Tories, quite frankly. I mean I despise what the Tories are doing to this country as much as you but I'm not going to hold it against people for joining them
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Post by maxque on Mar 25, 2023 13:23:30 GMT
There's no excuse for joining the Tories, quite frankly. Maybe, but the NEC makes Truss look like a model of competence.
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Post by aargauer on Mar 25, 2023 14:12:41 GMT
There's no excuse for joining the Tories, quite frankly. I mean I despise what the Tories are doing to this country as much as you but I'm not going to hold it against people for joining them Theres a difference between "people" and elected labour councillors. Let's be honest it's an absolute 180 betrayal of the people who selected him and voted for him.
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Post by mattbewilson on Mar 25, 2023 16:05:24 GMT
I mean I despise what the Tories are doing to this country as much as you but I'm not going to hold it against people for joining them Theres a difference between "people" and elected labour councillors. Let's be honest it's an absolute 180 betrayal of the people who selected him and voted for him. we'll find out in just over a month and a half what voters in Beaumont Leys think
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Mar 25, 2023 16:29:21 GMT
Reading, Battle (2026). Sarah Hacker, Labour to Independent. I know her and the way her and her father (also a former Labour Councillor) were treated by Reading Labour is nothing short of disgraceful. They both worked so hard for Oxy Road, huge losses.
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Post by kevinf on Mar 25, 2023 16:31:46 GMT
Re: Leicester. Pretty sure they were only deselected for voting against the mayoral system. In which case that’s incredibly heavy-handed…
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Post by aargauer on Mar 25, 2023 20:53:27 GMT
Re: Leicester. Pretty sure they were only deselected for voting against the mayoral system. In which case that’s incredibly heavy-handed… Yes, but join the greens, indies, at a push the Lib Dems. Not the tories...
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Mar 25, 2023 21:24:24 GMT
Re: Leicester. Pretty sure they were only deselected for voting against the mayoral system. In which case that’s incredibly heavy-handed… Yes, but join the greens, indies, at a push the Lib Dems. Not the tories... Why? Because of historic tribalism? Blue Labour and Wet Tories have more in common with each other than with the Greens or Liberal Democrats.
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Post by maxque on Mar 25, 2023 21:35:58 GMT
Re: Leicester. Pretty sure they were only deselected for voting against the mayoral system. In which case that’s incredibly heavy-handed… Which shows the NEC is useless and controlled by nefarious interests. There is only 1 person in Leicester Labour who ought to be deselected and it's the mastermind behind that purge, Peter Soulsby.
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Post by batman on Mar 25, 2023 21:53:44 GMT
One of the 19 has some pretty bad social media and not in the distant past. The others, I'm not aware of any.
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Post by aargauer on Mar 25, 2023 22:02:10 GMT
Re: Leicester. Pretty sure they were only deselected for voting against the mayoral system. In which case that’s incredibly heavy-handed… Which shows the NEC is useless and controlled by nefarious interests. There is only 1 person in Leicester Labour who ought to be deselected and it's the mastermind behind that purge, Peter Soulsby. So people willing to stand for the conservatives deserve the Labour whip?
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