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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 4, 2023 21:17:20 GMT
48 candidates were jointly sponsored by the Labour and Co-operative Parties at the 2019 election, of whom 24 were elected. Six candidates were sitting MPs who were defeated; 18 candidates were neither sitting MPs nor won their seats.
Since the election, one of the MPs has resigned (Tracy Brabin), while one new MP has been elected (Simon Lightwood).
The two MPs who did not stand as Labour and Co-operative in 2019 but are shown as part of the group on the Co-operative Party website are Jonathan Ashworth (Leicester South) and Geraint Davies (Swansea West).
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 5, 2023 0:16:23 GMT
That year there seemed to be a concerted effort made by both proponents and opponents rather than just a routine vote on the agenda. There was for two or three years, largely lead by those Co-ops that were seeking to demutualise. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 5, 2023 0:24:46 GMT
When that edition was transmitted the Wikipedia page on the Co-op Party said it had 37 MPs and the SNP were on 36 at the time. Assuming Wikipedia reflected the contemporary total that sounds about right and I presume the party did particularly badly in 2019. I'm not sure if the figure is all the MPs elected as "Labour and Co-operative", all the Labour MPs who sit in any organised group at Westminster or even every single MP who is a member - IIUC many straight "Labour" candidates are also Co-op Party members (and in local government I believe only a full slate are allowed to use the joint description). At local government level any Party member standing for election as a Labour Party candidate can apply for the Co-op Party description, which is usually automatic; my Party are doing Stoke City Council candidates on Friday night, but as I’m almost certainly still going to be in hospital, it’ll be without me. You are (or were) correct in that not every Co-op Party member at Westminster uses the Labour Co-operative Party description, I know George Stevenson didn’t, although Rob Flello joined the Co-op Party purely to get their nomination in the 2005 selection to succeed George (he failed, IIRC they nominated Mark Seddon). |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 5, 2023 15:49:42 GMT
I was struck when I worked for the Co-Op that we just didn't ever hear any mention of the party. I would suspect that most of my colleagues didn't know it existed. Which is a shame, because if they aren't selling the case to employees, they're missing a trick.
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Post by tonyhill on Mar 5, 2023 18:30:09 GMT
Decades ago when I was Secretary of the Hants & Wight Liberal Party I hatched a plan to try to take over the regional Co-Op and get it to affiliate to the Liberals, but in the end we didn't try it.
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Post by peterl on Mar 5, 2023 18:39:51 GMT
Decades ago when I was Secretary of the Hants & Wight Liberal Party I hatched a plan to try to take over the regional Co-Op and get it to affiliate to the Liberals, but in the end we didn't try it. That sounds like a story worth hearing. |
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Post by carolus on Mar 6, 2023 15:15:31 GMT
Islington, Clerkenwell. Matt Nathan, Labour to Independent.
North Yorkshire, Skipton West & West Craven, Independent Unaffiliated to North Yorkshire Independent.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2023 18:39:34 GMT
Decades ago when I was Secretary of the Hants & Wight Liberal Party I hatched a plan to try to take over the regional Co-Op and get it to affiliate to the Liberals, but in the end we didn't try it. I don't know why but that story reminds me of the BBC radio adaptation of the Little World of Don Camillo (the one where Pepponi helps the dairy hands win their strike and then they all go and join the Liberal Party particularly springs to mind). It sounds like the plot of an episodes of some kind of Anglicised equivalent! |
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Post by batman on Mar 7, 2023 8:43:18 GMT
Mike Gapes rejoins Labour, as predicted and as reported in parliamentary defections.
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Post by carolus on Mar 7, 2023 16:21:25 GMT
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Post by batman on Mar 7, 2023 18:08:12 GMT
so looks like it was a good idea to deselect them.
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Post by carolus on Mar 8, 2023 18:16:59 GMT
Pembrokeshire, Milford North. Alan Dennison, Not affiliated to any group, to Independent. Spelthorne, Riveside & Laleham. Michele Gibson, Independent (Affiliated to the Liberal Democrat Group) (elected as Conservative) to Liberal Democrat. Thanet - the Green & Independents group appears to have split into the Greens (5) and Independent (Pauline Farrance, in Salmestone, elected as Labour). In addition, Thanet, Beacon Road. Aram Rawf, Labour to Independent. He seems to have been expelled in Dec, but the website has only just updated - this may have been reported at the time. theisleofthanetnews.com/2022/12/28/broadstairs-councillor-goes-independent-after-being-expelled-from-labour-party-in-row-over-left-alliance-support/ |
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Post by ricmk on Mar 8, 2023 19:03:00 GMT
so looks like it was a good idea to deselect them. Bit of an odd loyalty test that one - if we deselect you and you are consequently so p***ed off with us that you go elsewhere, then that shows we were right. What loyalty does the deselected councillor owe there? What have they to lose after such a public humiliation by their own side? Sure, I've seen a couple of defections away from Labour from people missing out on PPC selections and kind of agree that shows a problem, but if you aren't ready for the consequences, why are you deselecting councillors at all? |
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Post by tonyhill on Mar 9, 2023 17:04:01 GMT
I don't agree, although the only thing I've been de-selected from is the constituency agent (after I'd helped obtain the best result in nearly 100 years). But regardless, it wouldn't alter my political ideology, assuming I had one in the first place which is the problem with a lot of the councillors who defect as I think we've observed many times. I really don't believe that these people in Luton have suddenly realised that they are Liberals rather than Socialists.
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Post by aargauer on Mar 9, 2023 20:26:48 GMT
so looks like it was a good idea to deselect them. Bit of an odd loyalty test that one - if we deselect you and you are consequently so p***ed off with us that you go elsewhere, then that shows we were right. What loyalty does the deselected councillor owe there? What have they to lose after such a public humiliation by their own side? Sure, I've seen a couple of defections away from Labour from people missing out on PPC selections and kind of agree that shows a problem, but if you aren't ready for the consequences, why are you deselecting councillors at all? If you are willing to represent another major party that's a very different thing to going indie in a huff. |
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Post by bungle on Mar 12, 2023 16:47:11 GMT
www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/derbyshire-dales-tory-council-leader-8236421Murky situation in Derbyshire Dales leads to Cllr Garry Purdy, Con, Masson Ward (and council leader) being suspended/resigning from the Conservative Party. He was already standing down in May. The gypsy issue has been rumbling along for a long time across various sites in the districts so there is plenty to this story which may impinge on the election. Good local journalism for uncovering the specifics .
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 12, 2023 17:46:02 GMT
www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/derbyshire-dales-tory-council-leader-8236421Murky situation in Derbyshire Dales leads to Cllr Garry Purdy, Con, Masson Ward (and council leader) being suspended/resigning from the Conservative Party. He was already standing down in May. The gypsy issue has been rumbling along for a long time across various sites in the districts so there is plenty to this story which may impinge on the election. Good local journalism for uncovering the specifics . "The spokesperson would not say if the council could or should be held responsible for issuing statements on behalf of its leader. They also would not say if a council leader making a statement on behalf of a council was in fact them representing the authority, even if that statement was issued by the council itself".
I'm sure m'learned friends on both sides will be taking a view before too long.
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Post by wallington on Mar 13, 2023 7:44:17 GMT
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Mar 13, 2023 15:31:57 GMT
He sounds like your standard rural pro-conservation Tory, to be honest. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2023 16:34:41 GMT
He sounds like your standard rural pro-conservation Tory, to be honest. Who in many parts of rural England have become "protect the green belt" Greens |
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