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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 15, 2021 0:49:42 GMT
Because it’s the website of The Burton Mail, and Burton-on-Trent is for all intents and purposes Derbyshire, including having a Derby postcode. So why call it "Staffordshire live" rather than, say, "Burton live"? Not saying there's anything wrong with it, merely commenting on the seeming incongruity of the name.
I think the Staffordshire Live publication may predate it’s ownership of the Burton Mail, it used to be a weekly broadsheet very much targeted at the farming and rural communities. Both Associated Newspapers and Mirror Group Newspapers divested themselves of a lot of local newspapers (including The Sentinel which is now management owned), and SL may have picked up the Burton Mail then. As for names I think it’s pretty flexible; The Sentinel’s online presence goes as SoTLive (as in Stoke-on-Trent) but as well as covering the city it includes parts of Stafford, Stone, Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire Moorlands and South Cheshire up to and including bits of Crewe. I note that Staffordshire Live is actually based and published in Derby.
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Post by syorkssocialist on Jan 15, 2021 5:50:57 GMT
Rotherham: Cllr Ian Jones (Rotherham West) LAB -> IND Cllr Kerry Albiston (Valley) LAB -> IND Both of these occurred a few months ago but it doesn't look like they have been posted here. In the case of Ian Jones his Labour colleagues chose not to back him for mayor after a year in the deputy role, although he remains deputy mayor at present: www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/view,opposition-to-back-rotherhams-deselected-mayor-candidate_35905.htm Not sure why Cllr Albiston is no longer listed as Labour.
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Post by matureleft on Jan 15, 2021 5:52:45 GMT
Why is Staffordshire live reporting on political manoeuvrings in South Derbyshire? Until fairly recently Swadlincote, the main town in the district, was described in postal terms as being an adjunct of Burton upon Trent. The main print newspaper was the Burton Mail which maintained a journalist team there. And it’s still a place with poor transport links to Derby.
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Post by matureleft on Jan 15, 2021 6:08:28 GMT
I'd always assumed Katie Hopkins was a member of UKIP, anyway I’d always assumed that she was a member of the Katie Hopkins self-promotion party. I’d wondered (without any desperate urge to find the answer) what she was doing to earn a living now. This must indicate some despair since attaching herself to what must now be no more than a shattered shell can’t seem a strategy consistent with her sole purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 10:22:09 GMT
What's more shocking, the thought that UKIP are still going, or the thought that they think this is a major catch? She’s aged ....
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Post by manchesterman on Jan 15, 2021 12:05:16 GMT
Populist grifter with nowhere to peddle her bile joins washed-up political organisation living in the past and desperate for something to raise its profile. Good match I would have thought!
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 15, 2021 12:28:08 GMT
Hopkins stood as some sort of Indie in one of the Euro elections, no?
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Post by ilerda on Jan 15, 2021 12:31:05 GMT
It probably is a major catch for a party that can't have more than a couple of thousand members these days.
And she'll certainly appeal to the small sub-set of voters and activists that UKIP is aligned with these days. Let's not pretend that they're aiming for a large chunk of the electorate after all.
"Public figure with minority views joins minor party that shares those views" is probably the most accurate headline for this piece of "news".
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 15, 2021 12:35:17 GMT
It probably is a major catch for a party that can't have more than a couple of thousand members these days.And she'll certainly appeal to the small sub-set of voters and activists that UKIP is aligned with these days. Let's not pretend that they're aiming for a large chunk of the electorate after all. "Public figure with minority views joins minor party that shares those views" is probably the most accurate headline for this piece of "news". They were still claiming a rather bigger number just a matter of months ago, and that may even be correct. Maybe the real point if so, is that they have entered the "even most of their actual members don't vote for them anymore" territory occupied by the likes of Israel Labour.
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Post by yellowperil on Jan 15, 2021 14:33:03 GMT
It probably is a major catch for a party that can't have more than a couple of thousand members these days.And she'll certainly appeal to the small sub-set of voters and activists that UKIP is aligned with these days. Let's not pretend that they're aiming for a large chunk of the electorate after all. "Public figure with minority views joins minor party that shares those views" is probably the most accurate headline for this piece of "news". They were still claiming a rather bigger number just a matter of months ago, and that may even be correct. Maybe the real point if so, is that they have entered the "even most of their actual members don't vote for them anymore" territory occupied by the likes of Israel Labour. FTFY
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Post by ilerda on Jan 15, 2021 16:37:39 GMT
Also just a few years ago UKIP was a party for whom the defection of a district councillor was significant enough to call a national press conference.
Bagging someone people have actually heard of is certainly not beyond them to shout about.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jan 15, 2021 17:07:19 GMT
It probably is a major catch for a party that can't have more than a couple of thousand members these days.And she'll certainly appeal to the small sub-set of voters and activists that UKIP is aligned with these days. Let's not pretend that they're aiming for a large chunk of the electorate after all. "Public figure with minority views joins minor party that shares those views" is probably the most accurate headline for this piece of "news". They were still claiming a rather bigger number just a matter of months ago, and that may even be correct. Maybe the real point if so, is that they have entered the "even most of their actual members don't vote for them anymore" territory occupied by the likes of Israel Labour. I think they'll be a fair few members who joined twenty years ago when their rise was just beginning and who are now in their eighties or nineties and have either forgot, or don't have the capacity to remember, they were ever members.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 15, 2021 18:52:08 GMT
They were still claiming a rather bigger number just a matter of months ago, and that may even be correct. Maybe the real point if so, is that they have entered the "even most of their actual members don't vote for them anymore" territory occupied by the likes of Israel Labour. I think they'll be a fair few members who joined twenty years ago when their rise was just beginning and who are now in their eighties or nineties and have either forgot, or don't have the capacity to remember, they were ever members. I think the power of the Direct Debit is probably more of a factor than any suggestion of dementia.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 15, 2021 18:54:42 GMT
So why call it "Staffordshire live" rather than, say, "Burton live"? Not saying there's anything wrong with it, merely commenting on the seeming incongruity of the name.
I think the Staffordshire Live publication may predate it’s ownership of the Burton Mail, it used to be a weekly broadsheet very much targeted at the farming and rural communities. Both Associated Newspapers and Mirror Group Newspapers divested themselves of a lot of local newspapers (including The Sentinel which is now management owned), and SL may have picked up the Burton Mail then. As for names I think it’s pretty flexible; The Sentinel’s online presence goes as SoTLive (as in Stoke-on-Trent) but as well as covering the city it includes parts of Stafford, Stone, Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire Moorlands and South Cheshire up to and including bits of Crewe.I note that Staffordshire Live is actually based and published in Derby. The Sentinel remains the evening paper of choice (i.e. the only one available) in all of Crewe.
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 15, 2021 19:35:46 GMT
I think the Staffordshire Live publication may predate it’s ownership of the Burton Mail, it used to be a weekly broadsheet very much targeted at the farming and rural communities. Both Associated Newspapers and Mirror Group Newspapers divested themselves of a lot of local newspapers (including The Sentinel which is now management owned), and SL may have picked up the Burton Mail then. As for names I think it’s pretty flexible; The Sentinel’s online presence goes as SoTLive (as in Stoke-on-Trent) but as well as covering the city it includes parts of Stafford, Stone, Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire Moorlands and South Cheshire up to and including bits of Crewe.I note that Staffordshire Live is actually based and published in Derby. The Sentinel remains the evening paper of choice (i.e. the only one available) in all of Crewe. Yeah, under Associated Newspapers ownership The Sentinel had a very aggressive policy of buying rivals and closing them; when I was working for Flello he was trying to get Brown’s government to reduce the circulation numbers before something constituted a monopoly and fell afoul of competition laws.
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Post by listener on Jan 16, 2021 1:24:56 GMT
The Kent County Council website is listing veteran Conservative Eric Hotson (Maidstone Rural South), a former KCC Chairman, as an Independent. Does anyone know what has happened?
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Post by neilm on Jan 16, 2021 11:50:21 GMT
I think they'll be a fair few members who joined twenty years ago when their rise was just beginning and who are now in their eighties or nineties and have either forgot, or don't have the capacity to remember, they were ever members. I think the power of the Direct Debit is probably more of a factor than any suggestion of dementia. There's a good case for annual DDs not to be allowed. Obviously I normally reject state regulation of how people spend their own money but I got stung last week by a renewal that I didn't really want.
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 16, 2021 12:13:34 GMT
I think the power of the Direct Debit is probably more of a factor than any suggestion of dementia. There's a good case for annual DDs not to be allowed. Obviously I normally reject state regulation of how people spend their own money but I got stung last week by a renewal that I didn't really want. Don’t you get a reminder a few weeks beforehand saying it will be collected on a given date?
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Post by neilm on Jan 16, 2021 12:32:08 GMT
There's a good case for annual DDs not to be allowed. Obviously I normally reject state regulation of how people spend their own money but I got stung last week by a renewal that I didn't really want. Don’t you get a reminder a few weeks beforehand saying it will be collected on a given date? Yes and no. In this case I'd set up with PayPal and despite trawling my emails (and text messages, just in case) I can't find a reminder. It doesn't normally happen to me but if I paid twice a year I'd definitely remember.
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 16, 2021 12:51:24 GMT
Don’t you get a reminder a few weeks beforehand saying it will be collected on a given date? Yes and no. In this case I'd set up with PayPal and despite trawling my emails (and text messages, just in case) I can't find a reminder. It doesn't normally happen to me but if I paid twice a year I'd definitely remember. It just struck me as my mum had had a reminder this morning from British Gas that her annual service contract renews in February.
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