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Post by greenhert on Jan 29, 2017 20:02:29 GMT
That is correct-deselection is only possible within political parties.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 29, 2017 20:06:25 GMT
I can only assume that by 'deselect' they mean that he is removed from membership of all committees and positions of responsibility. The parish council can't prevent him from attending meetings although the parent borough council could suspend him from membership if it found he had broken the code of conduct.
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Post by peterl on Jan 29, 2017 20:08:44 GMT
That used to be true, but since the new standards regime I'm not sure if it is anymore. I know for instance that our Code of Conduct was revised to remove all references to suspension.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 29, 2017 20:22:01 GMT
Which will be the lucky party to gain a seat on Kirklees Borough Council, I wonder? ("she is "open to offers" from other parties") I assume that it won't be the English Democrats! And the LibDems aren't top of her list either ("I am open to offers from all the other parties but I certainly wouldn't join the Liberal Democrats because they have gone. There's really only two parties now"). Unfortunately (from my perspective) the delightful Cllr Stubley seems to be casting her eyes towards the Conservatives ("I am disgusted with what Jeremy Corbyn has done to Labour. I might join the Conservatives.") Please, please, please, Kirklees Conservatives, resist her soft and attractive blandishments. Just watch the video on the Examiner's link above and ask yourselves "if she was too unpleasant and uncontrolled even for Labour, both in social media and before the cameras, do we really want her in our party?". Councillor Stubley's resignation from the Labour Group has deprived Labour of its overall majority on the Council. New Council: Lab 34; Con 20; LD 9; Grn 3; Ind (including Cllr Stubley) 3. Eh?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 29, 2017 20:24:27 GMT
I have been a parish councillor for several years and up quite knowledgeable about the law pertaining to parish councils. With the obvious exception of the disqualification for six months non-attendance (and even then the councillor is disqualified by operation of law and not by the council per se), a parish council (or any other type of council) can not "de-select" or otherwise remove a councillor. What he said basically.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 29, 2017 20:30:52 GMT
"Resolved ... that the member would be wrote a letter ..."Not quite how I would have phrased the matter. It would appear that the Council, and its Clerk, were under the misapprehension that they could "deselect" their colleague.
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Post by Crimson King on Jan 29, 2017 20:41:59 GMT
That is what I thought
perhaps all those who voted to 'deselect' him (which they did, it's in the minutes, whatever they subsequently told the paper) should be referred to standards for attempting to act out side their authority and for bringing the parish council into disrepute by demonstrating their stupidity and ignorance of procedure
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 29, 2017 21:04:02 GMT
That is what I thought perhaps all those who voted to 'deselect' him (which they did, it's in the minutes, whatever they subsequently told the paper) should be referred to standards for attempting to act out side their authority and for bringing the parish council into disrepute by demonstrating their stupidity and ignorance of procedure And sack the Clerk!
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Post by neilm on Jan 29, 2017 21:16:50 GMT
That is what I thought perhaps all those who voted to 'deselect' him (which they did, it's in the minutes, whatever they subsequently told the paper) should be referred to standards for attempting to act out side their authority and for bringing the parish council into disrepute by demonstrating their stupidity and ignorance of procedure When I was a parish councillor, I had to regularly slap down my colleagues for ultra vires and similar nonsense. In 2008, I forced a by election (which they didn't like) and got reported to standards for running a campaign, which was apparently 'not good form.' At one point we had the clerk chair a meeting.
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Post by casualobserver on Jan 30, 2017 1:39:09 GMT
Which will be the lucky party to gain a seat on Kirklees Borough Council, I wonder? ("she is "open to offers" from other parties") I assume that it won't be the English Democrats! And the LibDems aren't top of her list either ("I am open to offers from all the other parties but I certainly wouldn't join the Liberal Democrats because they have gone. There's really only two parties now"). Unfortunately (from my perspective) the delightful Cllr Stubley seems to be casting her eyes towards the Conservatives ("I am disgusted with what Jeremy Corbyn has done to Labour. I might join the Conservatives.") Please, please, please, Kirklees Conservatives, resist her soft and attractive blandishments. Just watch the video on the Examiner's link above and ask yourselves "if she was too unpleasant and uncontrolled even for Labour, both in social media and before the cameras, do we really want her in our party?". Councillor Stubley's resignation from the Labour Group has deprived Labour of its overall majority on the Council. New Council: Lab 34; Con 20; LD 9; Grn 3; Ind (including Cllr Stubley) 3. Eh? That number appears to be correct: www.kirklees.gov.uk/beta/your-councillors/composition-of-council.aspx . I have absolutely no idea what, if anything, was in Councillor Stubley's mind when she said "they have gone".
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Post by Foggy on Jan 30, 2017 2:25:22 GMT
That is what I thought perhaps all those who voted to 'deselect' him (which they did, it's in the minutes, whatever they subsequently told the paper) should be referred to standards for attempting to act out side their authority and for bringing the parish council into disrepute by demonstrating their stupidity and ignorance of procedure And sack the Clerk! My grandfather has served as a parish council clerk, and the clerk in my current joint parish is about to retire. It can be very difficult to find someone willing and able to take on such a role.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 30, 2017 12:13:10 GMT
That is what I thought perhaps all those who voted to 'deselect' him (which they did, it's in the minutes, whatever they subsequently told the paper) should be referred to standards for attempting to act out side their authority and for bringing the parish council into disrepute by demonstrating their stupidity and ignorance of procedure When I was a parish councillor, I had to regularly slap down my colleagues for ultra vires and similar nonsense. In 2008, I forced a by election (which they didn't like) and got reported to standards for running a campaign, which was apparently 'not good form.' At one point we had the clerk chair a meeting. I can top that. At one of our local PCs the Chairman was poorly, so sent his mother ... who chaired the meeting. Going ultra vires was one reason I left one of my PCs.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 30, 2017 12:14:20 GMT
My grandfather has served as a parish council clerk, and the clerk in my current joint parish is about to retire. It can be very difficult to find someone willing and able to take on such a role. Perhaps we need to attract Polish parish clerks ...
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Post by tonygreaves on Jan 30, 2017 12:32:24 GMT
Here's some fun for you all.
The three Nelson Town Councillors for Whitefield Ward all resigned from the Liberal Democrats last night. They are Councillors Hassan Mahmood, Majid Anwar and Najaf Anwar.
Pendle Councillor Nadeem Ahmed then resigned from the Liberal Democrats.
It is expected that after a short period of time they will join the Conservatives but it seems they have not yet done so.
Here are their resignation letters, which you can make of as you will...
Councillor Najaf Anwar: “I wish to tender my resignation from the Liberal Democrats Party. I very much appreciate all we have achieved together. I wish you all the best for the future."
Councillor Majid Anwar: “I am very honoured to have been a part of the Liberal Democrats team and I have learnt so much in my time here. This decision has not been an easy one to make. I would like to thank everyone for their help and support over the last two years.”
Councillor Hassan Mahmood: “I write to inform you that I wish to resign from the party with immediate effect. I thank the party for their support and guidance over the years and wish it the very best.”
Councillor Nadeem Ahmed: "Following my detailed discussion with Tony last weekend when we discussed the changes in the local political climate and further developments since then I write to inform you that I am resigning from the Liberal Democrats with immediate effect. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the whole group for all your help, support and guidance over the years." (No, I don't know what the "further developments" are either.)
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 30, 2017 15:49:47 GMT
There seems to be something of a history of this in Pendle
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Post by hedgehog on Jan 30, 2017 18:18:28 GMT
When I first ready her comments I assumed she was talking about National politics.
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Post by tonygreaves on Jan 30, 2017 19:59:06 GMT
There seems to be something of a history of this in Pendle There was a defection of a Nelson Town Councillor (Cllr Sofir) in Southfield Ward from Conservative to Labour about three weeks ago.
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 30, 2017 20:02:16 GMT
There seems to be something of a history of this in Pendle There was a defection of a Nelson Town Councillor (Cllr Sofir) in Southfield Ward from Conservative to Labour about three weeks ago. I was thinking of the MEP. ....
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Post by Crimson King on Jan 30, 2017 21:53:32 GMT
There seems to be something of a history of this in Pendle I presume they are deep thinkers who after long reflection on political philosophy have reached the conclusion that the best way to bring about the society that their beliefs would like to see is through another party
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 23:00:52 GMT
They do things differently in Pendle....
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