Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Dec 20, 2018 10:36:37 GMT
Pleased to see that despite the boundaries being identical there is no double-hatting by Liberals or Conservatives in south Cumbria ... Though the by-elections were caused by the death of a two-hatted Lib Dem councillor, of course. And actually, if the Lib Dem candidate wins in the county election, he will be a two-hat man, as he's already on the district council. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 20, 2018 12:33:10 GMT
And the local MP was a district councillor for Milnthorpe for three years after going to Westminster, then later President of the party, then leader and has usually been on the party's front bench except for that time when he resigned in protest at the party's deviousness on referendums on the EU.
Double-hatting is not confined to publicly elected positions.
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Post by andrew111 on Dec 20, 2018 15:37:57 GMT
And the local MP was a district councillor for Milnthorpe for three years after going to Westminster, then later President of the party, then leader and has usually been on the party's front bench except for that time when he resigned in protest at the party's deviousness on referendums on the EU. Double-hatting is not confined to publicly elected positions. Are you proposing to ban MPs from being Party Leader because it is "double hatting"?? |
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 20, 2018 17:02:21 GMT
No, I'll leave that to the Lib Dems.
Just a general observation that multiple posts and distractions don't just come from public elections or the private sector.
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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 20, 2018 22:52:38 GMT
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Post by andrewp on Dec 20, 2018 22:55:53 GMT
Con 523 Lab 507 that was close. |
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 20, 2018 23:07:51 GMT
Charnwood, Anstey - Conservative gain from Liberal Democrat who did not defend the seat| Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2015 "top" | 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | | Row 2 column 1 | 523 | 50.8% | +17.1% | +19.0% | +15.6% | +18.8% | Row 3 column 1 | 507 | 49.2% | +33.6% | +35.6% | +30.8% | +32.4% | Liberal Democrat |
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| -25.6% | -27.6% | -38.7% | -42.8% | UKIP |
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| -16.1% | -17.3% |
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| Green |
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| -9.1% | -9.8% |
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| BNP |
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| -7.7% | -8.5% | Total votes | 1,030 |
| 22% | 24% | 36% | 41% |
Swing, if at all meaningful, Conservative to Labour 8¼% since 2015 and 7½% / 6¾% since 2011 Council now 42 Conservative, 9 Labour, 1 Independent Cumbria, Kent Estuary - Liberal Democrat hold | Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2017 | since 2013 | | since 2009 | Liberal Democrat | 1,381 | 62.0% | +9.0% | -2.1% |
| -4.0% | Conservative | 666 | 29.9% | -7.2% | +0.9% |
| -2.2% | Green | 109 | 4.9% | -1.1% | from nowhere |
| from nowhere | Labour | 70 | 3.1% | -0.7% | -3.7% |
| +1.2% | Total votes | 2,226 |
| 83% | 96% |
| 69% |
Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat ~ 8% since 2017 but Liberal Democrat to Conservative 1½% since 2013 and ~ 1% since 2009 before boundary review Council now 36 Conservative, 26 Labour, 16 Liberal Democrat, 3 Independent, 2 West Cumbria Independent, 1 Vacant
South Lakeland, Arnside & Milnthorpe - Liberal Democrat hold | Party | 2018 B votes | 2018 B share | since 2018 "top" | since 2018 "average" | Liberal Democrat | 1,319 | 59.4% | +7.9% | +3.8% | Conservative | 709 | 31.9% | +0.2% | +0.1% | Green | 125 | 5.6% | -6.4% | -1.6% | Labour | 68 | 3.1% | -1.7% | -2.2% | Total votes | 2,221 |
| 76% | 84% |
Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat ~ 3¾% / 1¾% since 2018 Council now 29 Liberal Democrat, 19 Conservative, 3 Labour
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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 20, 2018 23:43:01 GMT
Turnout in Arnside and Milnthorpe 44.22%. Apparently only just commencing actual counting, so with Kent Estuary as well it could be a late one.
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 20, 2018 23:46:27 GMT
Turnout in Arnside and Milnthorpe 44.22%. Apparently only just commencing actual counting, so with Kent Estuary as well it could be a late one. Around 2,300 votes to count and presumably very similar for Kent Estuary |
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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 20, 2018 23:57:25 GMT
Turnout in Arnside and Milnthorpe 44.22%. Apparently only just commencing actual counting, so with Kent Estuary as well it could be a late one. Around 2,300 votes to count and presumably very similar for Kent Estuary Exact same turnout according to @southlakelanddc on Twitter. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 21, 2018 0:08:51 GMT
Be interesting to see how many blanks there are - some voters may assume they can only vote on one paper.
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 21, 2018 0:29:24 GMT
Turnout in Arnside and Milnthorpe 44.22%. Apparently only just commencing actual counting, so with Kent Estuary as well it could be a late one. Let's get some of Milnthorpe's finest export in to try and sustain the counters: |
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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 21, 2018 0:39:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 0:47:22 GMT
County:
LD: 62% (+9) Con: 29.9% (-7.2) Grn: 4.9% (-1.1) Lab: 3.14% (-0.7) District:LD: 59.4% (+7.9) Con: 31.9% (+0.2) Grn: 5.63% (-6.4) Lab: 3.1% (-1.7)
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 21, 2018 1:03:03 GMT
Only a net five votes difference between the district and county elections.
This is one of those times when I wish a combined ballot paper was used, with an additional information count to show combinations of votes.
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 21, 2018 1:05:21 GMT
Charnwood, Anstey - Conservative gain from Liberal Democrat who did not defend the seat| Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2015 "top" | 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | | Row 2 column 1 | 523 | 50.8% | +17.1% | +19.0% | +15.6% | +18.8% | Row 3 column 1 | 507 | 49.2% | +33.6% | +35.6% | +30.8% | +32.4% | Liberal Democrat |
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| -25.6% | -27.6% | -38.7% | -42.8% | UKIP |
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| -16.1% | -17.3% |
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| Green |
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| -9.1% | -9.8% |
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| -7.7% | -8.5% | Total votes | 1,030 |
| 22% | 24% | 36% | 41% |
Swing, if at all meaningful, Conservative to Labour 8¼% since 2015 and 7½% / 6¾% since 2011 Council now 42 Conservative, 9 Labour, 1 Independent Cumbria, Kent Estuary - Liberal Democrat hold | Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2017 | since 2013 | | since 2009 | Liberal Democrat | 1,381 | 62.0% | +9.0% | -2.1% |
| -4.0% | Conservative | 666 | 29.9% | -7.2% | +0.9% |
| -2.2% | Green | 109 | 4.9% | -1.1% | from nowhere |
| from nowhere | Labour | 70 | 3.1% | -0.7% | -3.7% |
| +1.2% | Total votes | 2,226 |
| 83% | 96% |
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Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat ~ 8% since 2017 but Liberal Democrat to Conservative 1½% since 2013 and ~ 1% since 2009 before boundary review Council now 36 Conservative, 26 Labour, 16 Liberal Democrat, 3 Independent, 2 West Cumbria Independent, 1 Vacant
South Lakeland, Arnside & Milnthorpe - Liberal Democrat hold | Party | 2018 B votes | 2018 B share | since 2018 "top" | since 2018 "average" | Liberal Democrat | 1,319 | 59.4% | +7.9% | +3.8% | Conservative | 709 | 31.9% | +0.2% | +0.1% | Green | 125 | 5.6% | -6.4% | -1.6% | Labour | 68 | 3.1% | -1.7% | -2.2% | Total votes | 2,221 |
| 76% | 84% |
Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat ~ 3¾% / 1¾% since 2018 Council now 29 Liberal Democrat, 19 Conservative, 3 Labour
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Post by edgbaston on Dec 21, 2018 1:28:31 GMT
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Post by andrew111 on Dec 21, 2018 7:20:59 GMT
No, I'll leave that to the Lib Dems. Just a general observation that multiple posts and distractions don't just come from public elections or the private sector. You are probably correct that now Tim Farron is not busy being Party Leader the Tories can say goodbye to taking his seat. |
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Dec 21, 2018 9:22:07 GMT
County:
LD: 62% (+9) Con: 29.9% (-7.2) Grn: 4.9% (-1.1) Lab: 3.14% (-0.7) District:LD: 59.4% (+7.9) Con: 31.9% (+0.2) Grn: 5.63% (-6.4) Lab: 3.1% (-1.7) Very good holds for us. If the Tories were hoping to put pressure on Tim Farron, it isn't working very well just yet. And both Labour and the Greens go backwards too. |
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Post by froome on Dec 21, 2018 9:51:15 GMT
County:
LD: 62% (+9) Con: 29.9% (-7.2) Grn: 4.9% (-1.1) Lab: 3.14% (-0.7) District:LD: 59.4% (+7.9) Con: 31.9% (+0.2) Grn: 5.63% (-6.4) Lab: 3.1% (-1.7) Very good holds for us. If the Tories were hoping to put pressure on Tim Farron, it isn't working very well just yet. And both Labour and the Greens go backwards too.I have absolutely no doubt the Lib Dem leaflets will have highlighted the marginal state of these wards to frighten them into submission.  |
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