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May 13, 2013 17:14:27 GMT
Post by Pimpernal on May 13, 2013 17:14:27 GMT
Twitter's going to be a bit repetitive tonight then...
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May 13, 2013 17:24:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:24:18 GMT
To be expected really.
The poll does put Clegg on notice though.
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May 13, 2013 17:27:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:27:14 GMT
Lab 34, Con 28, UKIP 18, LD 11, Others 9 What's the breakdown for the 9% Others? |
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May 13, 2013 17:43:02 GMT
Post by middleenglander on May 13, 2013 17:43:02 GMT
Lab 34, Con 28, UKIP 18, LD 11, Others 9 What's the breakdown for the 9% Others? BNP 4, Nationalists (SNP + PC) 3, Greens 2 |
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May 13, 2013 17:43:16 GMT
Post by Pimpernal on May 13, 2013 17:43:16 GMT
Lab 34, Con 28, UKIP 18, LD 11, Others 9 What's the breakdown for the 9% Others? "The "none of the above" disillusionment is also evident in a surge in support for other minor parties, especially the neo-fascist BNP. It stands on 4%, up three on the month, while the Greens are on 2% and the combined Welsh and Scottish nationalists stand at 3%." Where have the +3 for BNP come from then? |
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May 13, 2013 17:48:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:48:29 GMT
Eh?!  |
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May 13, 2013 17:58:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:58:47 GMT
that totally invalidates the whole poll for me, that is just so much nonsense how do we trust any of the figures. The gold standard is far from that now ?
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May 13, 2013 18:01:31 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 18:01:31 GMT
Eh?! UKIP have shifted the window to the right,so BNP become incrementally more acceptable. Simples |
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May 13, 2013 18:01:46 GMT
Post by Devonian on May 13, 2013 18:01:46 GMT
to put that in contest CON 28-4, LAB 34-4, LD 11-4, Ukip 18+9. you could ask where the other 3% has gone Not really sure what's jaw dropping about that? All the evidence (opinion polls, news coverage even celebrity endorsements) suggest UKIP is having an ongoing surge in popularity, which is showing no signs of slowing at the moment, 18% is only one point higher than the recent 17% they got from YouGov. I won't be surprised if another poll shows them even higher within the next 7 days |
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May 13, 2013 18:21:53 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 18:21:53 GMT
I certainly think the BNP has the potential to poll much more highly than it does at present. I've known them to be on 7% in the polls once they got some oxygen of publicity from local election gains during the 2001-2005 Parliament. In 2003 they averaged 17% in wards in which they fielded candidates.
I am surprised because they had no such success a week and a half ago, had little publicity, and had supposedly been disappearing as a political force for quite a while. Andrew Brons, for instance, is no longer part of them. They usually only poll about 1% nowadays.
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May 13, 2013 18:23:01 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 18:23:01 GMT
well we found out where the disappearing 3% went to then, just almost impossible to believe it went to them
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May 13, 2013 18:40:40 GMT
Post by Pimpernal on May 13, 2013 18:40:40 GMT
to put that in contest CON 28-4, LAB 34-4, LD 11-4, Ukip 18+9. you could ask where the other 3% has gone Not really sure what's jaw dropping about that? All the evidence (opinion polls, news coverage even celebrity endorsements) suggest UKIP is having an ongoing surge in popularity, which is showing no signs of slowing at the moment, 18% is only one point higher than the recent 17% they got from YouGov. I won't be surprised if another poll shows them even higher within the next 7 days Jaw dropping from an ICM perspective - and it was ICM bloke who used the term - because it doubles the highest score UKIP previously had with that company... |
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May 13, 2013 18:42:25 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 18:42:25 GMT
it quadrupled the BNP score !
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May 13, 2013 19:04:51 GMT
Post by Pimpernal on May 13, 2013 19:04:51 GMT
Eh?! UKIP have shifted the window to the right,so BNP become incrementally more acceptable. Simples Is that why the greens also doubled their score? This poll 'proves' (OK it does nothing of the sort, but if we're going to play points it's just as valid) that BNP support doesn't come from UKIP but from LiblabCon... |
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May 13, 2013 19:15:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 19:15:20 GMT
this poll proves nothing as no one but no one can believe BNP at 4% nationally
In this poll it shows support for EU out narrowing and no demand for immediate vote on the EU either, if you believe it.
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May 13, 2013 19:34:03 GMT
Post by Devonian on May 13, 2013 19:34:03 GMT
Not really sure what's jaw dropping about that? All the evidence (opinion polls, news coverage even celebrity endorsements) suggest UKIP is having an ongoing surge in popularity, which is showing no signs of slowing at the moment, 18% is only one point higher than the recent 17% they got from YouGov. I won't be surprised if another poll shows them even higher within the next 7 days Jaw dropping from an ICM perspective - and it was ICM bloke who used the term - because it doubles the highest score UKIP previously had with that company... Do the people who work at ICM not follow other companys' polls? Did they not realise that UKIP has had a huge and continuing surge in support over the last month going up to 17% with YouGov last week? I think it highly likely that the next Opinium poll which (correct me if I'm wrong) is due this weekend will show an even higher level of support. |
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May 13, 2013 19:37:37 GMT
Post by The Bishop on May 13, 2013 19:37:37 GMT
Sorry, but 4% for a BNP that now barely exists is laughable. Especially with UKIP that high  |
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May 13, 2013 19:38:29 GMT
Post by Pimpernal on May 13, 2013 19:38:29 GMT
LOL - I think it's more the pre-release spin that drove the 'jaw-dropping' comment rather than any ignorance by ICM folks  |
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Post by Devonian on May 13, 2013 20:25:53 GMT
LOL - I think it's more the pre-release spin that drove the 'jaw-dropping' comment rather than any ignorance by ICM folks Fair play. I'll stick by what I said about expecting the poll numbers for UKIP to go even higher. People like to follow the crowd. They don't want to cast a wasted vote and (more impotantly) they don't want to be too far from what everyone else is doing. That's why the Rotherham result was a boost, why the Eastleigh result was an even bigger boost and why the local election results are an even further boost. It's also why last week you had a couple of celeb endorsements and why those endorsements will in turn help boost popularity. It's why reports of this poll will further boost your popularity. People will see 18% poll numbers, will see 150 council seat wins, will see endorsements from Jamie Oliver and Des Lynam and they will think 'lots of other people support UKIP so it's OK for me to support them also' |
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May 13, 2013 20:47:09 GMT
Post by Sibboleth on May 13, 2013 20:47:09 GMT
Bubbles tend to burst, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if lousy summer polling sees at least one OMGUKIPSECOND!?!?!?! headline.
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