The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 20, 2013 9:57:41 GMT
Tories gloating on Twitter about this poll, whilst studiously avoiding the others. Who are they trying to fool?
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 20, 2013 10:23:57 GMT
Tories gloating on Twitter about this poll, whilst studiously avoiding the others. Who are they trying to fool? Themselves? |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 20, 2013 10:31:32 GMT
Well that obviously, but I think there is often an attempt to mislead others as well.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 20, 2013 10:39:12 GMT
The Conservatives are certainly going to seek to damage the Labour Party at the election by personally criticising the leadership for failing to "make a breakthrough" in the polls etc, implying that this was possible had Labour taken other paths (I believe it was not). But in any case, constantly stirring up rumours of poor polling is a good way of insidiously making that case.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 12:51:44 GMT
I wouldn't go so far as to gloat whenever we are able to keep Labour's lead down to less than 5% eighteen months before the GE, and if any of my fellow Conservatives are doing so it would be most unwise. The same applies, it should be said, to Labour supporters such as redwing who are openly and complacently taking victory for granted, and assuming a collapse in LibDem support will get them into government. I'm seeing this sort of thing constantly.
After being behind in the polls for most of the last three years, Conservative supporters should be forgiven for having cause for optimism. The fact that we've had an increasing number of polls in the past few weeks and months with small leads for Labour or no lead at all keeps the next GE wide open.
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 20, 2013 13:52:22 GMT
I wouldn't take "redwing's" comments with any seriousness, tbh.
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 20, 2013 14:08:49 GMT
Well that obviously, but I think there is often an attempt to mislead others as well. No! Surely not? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 19:24:36 GMT
usal ramping
Mike Smithson @msmithsonpb
ComRes phone poll out at 10pm with some big changes I'm told
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 22:05:56 GMT
I was going to say reversion to the mean, but this is the phone poll, not the online one, so the changes are from the figures quoted on Sep 30th, not Oct 19th. Big movements, and like Mike Smithson I'd like to see where the rise in Others comes from
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 28, 2013 22:07:00 GMT
Bizarre poll showing Others (excl. UKIP) up by 5%:
Lab 36% (-1%)
Con 28% (-5%)
UKIP 12% (+1%)
LD 11% (nc)
Others 13% (+5%)
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 28, 2013 22:14:05 GMT
Looking at the full tables the 'Others' break down as: Green Party: 5% (or possibly I should say 'Green Parties') SNP: 3% Plaid Cymru: 1% BNP: 1% Others: 4% The 'other others' are highest in the North and in Scotland. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 28, 2013 22:17:38 GMT
Doesn't seem very credible that Other Others can be on 4%. Who are they exactly?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 22:23:21 GMT
If there was one poll I wouldn't doing badly in one with Greens at 5 and other others (who???) at 4 then this would be it.
A very obvious rogue.
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Post by marksenior on Oct 28, 2013 22:24:13 GMT
Doesn't seem very credible that Other Others can be on 4%. Who are they exactly? Respect , TUSC , Eng Dems , Independents , NF , Christians , Independent Kidderminster Hospitals , Independents . OMRLP and many others . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 22:25:02 GMT
Doesn't seem very credible that Other Others can be on 4%. Who are they exactly? Breakthrough time for the United Peoples Party, obv. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 28, 2013 22:27:31 GMT
No, if it's particularly high in Scotland it's definitely the SDA surfing a wave of popular support, fresh off their Govan triumph.
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 28, 2013 22:36:39 GMT
4% "other others" is pretty odd, no doubt about that - is this a repeat of that ICM "one woman in Wales weighted up to give the BNP 4%" episode earlier this year?
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Post by erlend on Oct 28, 2013 23:04:09 GMT
13% others is high. In the last General Election it was about 7%. I would expect that to be squeezed in England with the BNP vote being well down (a combination of UKIP and return to Labour). The SNP will be a bit up but Scotland is quite small.
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 16, 2013 19:47:05 GMT
Lab 35% (nc)
Con 29% (-3%)
UKIP 17% (+1%)
LD 10% (+1%)
Others 9% (+1%)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 19:43:28 GMT
Mike Smithson @msmithsonpb
Quite big changes in new ComRes phone poll coming out later. It's for the Indy.
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