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Post by heslingtonian on May 12, 2024 20:31:14 GMT
What is the sum-gain for them? I assume they are mainly in seats likely to be lost at the General Election, and that they have no ambitions to be selected as Labour candidates this time around. It may be that some simply have changed their views, or held their political loyalties lightly, or have hope of being awarded a peerage post-election and, if former ministers, could bring much needed experience to a Labour government. Mind you, how many Tory MPs haven't held some sort of ministerial role in the shambles of the last few years? In fairness if you were a Conservative MP first elected in the 2005-15 period, it's not unreasonable to say the Party of 2024 is a very different proposition to when they first became an MP. It's trying to appeal to a completely different audience of voters for starters.
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Post by maxque on May 12, 2024 22:48:07 GMT
Tobias Ellwood perhaps? just a guess Is Bournemouth E winnable? I would assume not, but wierd things are happening on the south coast.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 12, 2024 23:13:06 GMT
Both Bournemouth seats are being fought properly as stretch targets, with East generally considered slightly more winnable than West. Much may depend on tactical voting.
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Post by manchesterman on May 13, 2024 0:02:11 GMT
East is 97th most winnable seat on Labour's target list, so unless something goes terribly wrong they should be winning this seat even if they somehow fall short of an overall majority.
West is number 121, so slightly tougher, but even so, the sort of seat they need to win to get even the barest of majorities.
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Post by swingometer on May 13, 2024 0:02:41 GMT
Both Bournemouth seats are being fought properly as stretch targets, with East generally considered slightly more winnable than West. Much may depend on tactical voting. 8.95 swing needed, this is way below the swing essential for them to get a majority
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Post by uthacalthing on May 13, 2024 17:04:54 GMT
Speaking from personal experience of defecting from the Tory party, sometimes you have no hope of gaining anything, you merely want to shit in their porridge. And it is as likely to be personal than principle
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 22, 2024 22:19:14 GMT
Ex-Parliamentary defection. Dr Charles Tannock, Conservative MEP for London 1999-2019, has backed Labour candidate Joe Powell in Kensington and Bayswater.
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on May 23, 2024 19:42:22 GMT
Matt Hancock and Bob Stewart get Tory whip back as 'goodwill gesture' according to Sky News
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Post by greenrichard on May 24, 2024 9:13:20 GMT
J Corbyn - Lab to Ind
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 24, 2024 9:19:00 GMT
He lost the Labour whip ages ago. He will lose his party membership the moment he submits his nomination papers.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 24, 2024 9:19:54 GMT
He's already lost party membership this morning - simply declaring that he intends to stand is enough.
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Post by batman on May 24, 2024 9:58:47 GMT
in terms of Commons representation this is not a defection. He was an Independent MP before his expulsion this morning and will end the parliament also as an Independent MP.
There is still however time for defections before parliament is dissolved next week.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 27, 2024 15:24:36 GMT
Does this count as a defection? Parliament has not yet been dissolved but Lucy Allan, outgoing Conservative MP for Telford, has backed the Reform UK candidate to succeed her.
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Post by stb12 on May 27, 2024 15:26:31 GMT
Does this count as a defection? Parliament has not yet been dissolved but Lucy Allan, outgoing Conservative MP for Telford, has backed the Reform UK candidate to succeed her. Endorsing another party doesn’t necessarily mean that they’ve joined it but we’ll maybe hear more
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Post by batman on May 27, 2024 15:40:26 GMT
She would surely lose the whip for this but it may be that they won't bother doing that in the 2 days before parliament is dissolved.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 27, 2024 15:49:15 GMT
She has been suspended.
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Post by greenhert on May 27, 2024 16:38:11 GMT
She would surely lose the whip for this but it may be that they won't bother doing that in the 2 days before parliament is dissolved. As she is standing down at this election anyway and does not appear to be changing her mind on this decision from what I have seen in the press, a loss of the whip is moot.
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Post by batman on May 27, 2024 18:45:40 GMT
John Mann, previously a crossbencher, has taken the Labour whip in the House of Lords (he has not left the Labour Party as an individual member since leaving the Commons in 2019). Perhaps not surprisingly given that his wife is a Labour candidate in the general election. He has pledged to campaign for Labour in the general election. (This from Jewish News.)
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on May 27, 2024 19:53:44 GMT
John Mann, previously a crossbencher, has taken the Labour whip in the House of Lords (he has not left the Labour Party as an individual member since leaving the Commons in 2019). Perhaps not surprisingly given that his wife is a Labour candidate in the general election. He has pledged to campaign for Labour in the general election. (This from Jewish News.)
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Post by CatholicLeft on May 28, 2024 11:48:02 GMT
John Mann, previously a crossbencher, has taken the Labour whip in the House of Lords (he has not left the Labour Party as an individual member since leaving the Commons in 2019). Perhaps not surprisingly given that his wife is a Labour candidate in the general election. He has pledged to campaign for Labour in the general election. (This from Jewish News.) He did so the day Jeremy Corbyn's automatic expulsion from the party. He had said he wouldn't retake the whip whilst Jeremy Corbyn was still in the party.
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