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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jan 11, 2023 21:38:22 GMT
I've met him a few times. He doesn't really fit your c (but certainly not a or b!!). He led a pretty successful business. He's sharp as opposed to clever (but he's run into severe problems with his business since both his divorce and his taking a back-seat role). He has some wrong-headed opinions (in my view), expresses them loudly, and has a strong sense of entitlement. He may well have put on a bit of weight but he wasn't fat when I knew him. He is short and there are some who think there's a "small man syndrome". He displayed some of its supposed characteristics. He's perhaps portly rather than outright fat. portly, curvaceous, call it what you will
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 11, 2023 23:37:38 GMT
No. He really is quite that thick. The Conservatives went through a phase of recruiting a) smooth, well-spoken, well-connected, liberal, total airheads; b) smooth, well spoken, fairly erudite, Metopolitan, fairly woke managerialists; and c) thick, fat, gormless, ill-spoken but very right-wing total plonkers. Guess which he is? Dare I ask how long this phase lasted? I suppose the core Cameroonism?
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 12, 2023 0:00:36 GMT
I've met him a few times. He doesn't really fit your c (but certainly not a or b!!). He led a pretty successful business. He's sharp as opposed to clever (but he's run into severe problems with his business since both his divorce and his taking a back-seat role). He has some wrong-headed opinions (in my view), expresses them loudly, and has a strong sense of entitlement. He may well have put on a bit of weight but he wasn't fat when I knew him. He is short and there are some who think there's a "small man syndrome". He displayed some of its supposed characteristics. He's perhaps portly rather than outright fat. He's a fat git! We all know it.
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Post by dundas on Jan 12, 2023 12:40:22 GMT
He's perhaps portly rather than outright fat. He's a fat git! We all know it. He's also 100% correct in his statements, and those clumsily accusing him of direct speech rather than reported speech are guilty of crimes against rhetoric.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jan 12, 2023 12:45:51 GMT
He's perhaps portly rather than outright fat. He's a fat git! We all know it. I hear the word plump less nowadays
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jan 12, 2023 12:49:41 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 12, 2023 13:29:27 GMT
He's a fat git! We all know it. He's also 100% correct in his statements, and those clumsily accusing him of direct speech rather than reported speech are guilty of crimes against rhetoric. Very few people are ever 100% correct on anything ever. His mode of expressing his view was shall we say less than optimal? Never invoke a comparison with Hitler, Holocaust, or the SS.
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Post by batman on Jan 12, 2023 13:32:37 GMT
This brings to mind the Not The Nine O'Clock News sketch about stout people who are surrounded by stoutist graffiti such as "maximum load 6 persons"
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Post by r34t on Jan 20, 2023 12:00:25 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 20, 2023 12:32:33 GMT
A very valuable MP and quite a brave woman to be standng up to the many dreadful bigots in her own party and across the whole spectrum of our present utterly disgusting society bent on supporting filth and perversion wherever they see it. This is a culture war and it has to be won to preserve sanity and decency. It is of vital importance. Lloyd Russell Moyle is the most disgusting piece of shit ever to 'grace' the HOC in my entire life. He uttely beneath all contempt and.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jan 20, 2023 12:36:29 GMT
She should cross the floor. She won't, and I wouldn't be surprised if she stood again, but it's clear that there's an attempt to try and force her out through bigoted abuse and bullying, as Luciana Berger was.
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Post by aargauer on Jan 20, 2023 13:11:26 GMT
She should cross the floor. She won't, and I wouldn't be surprised if she stood again, but it's clear that there's an attempt to try and force her out through bigoted abuse and bullying, as Luciana Berger was. A TERF socialist is still a socialist. I wouldn't want her, and wouldn't vote for her (I don't really care about trans issues and that wouldn't be a serious consideration in my vote).
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 20, 2023 13:18:57 GMT
She should cross the floor. She won't, and I wouldn't be surprised if she stood again, but it's clear that there's an attempt to try and force her out through bigoted abuse and bullying, as Luciana Berger was. A TERF socialist is still a socialist. I wouldn't want her, and wouldn't vote for her (I don't really care about trans issues and that wouldn't be a serious consideration in my vote). Yes, it's like Field or Hoey, just because they happened to agree with the Conservatives on Brexit doesn't mean they were Tories.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 20, 2023 13:21:44 GMT
She should cross the floor. She won't, and I wouldn't be surprised if she stood again, but it's clear that there's an attempt to try and force her out through bigoted abuse and bullying, as Luciana Berger was. She doesn't say she can't support them at the next election, what she says is: "In 2019, it was hard enough trying to convince my constituents that Labour wasn’t antisemitic. In the next election, when they inevitably ask whether Labour is sexist, I’m not sure I’ll be able to do the same". She also makes it clear she is a "progressive Left-wing MP, so why would she cross the floor? Her criticism of the Labour frontbench is telling and comfirms my poor view of most of them. In terms of the debate the other day, I have to say, nothing Lloyd Russell-Moyle does surprises me anymore, he is a childish student politician, and the behaviour of most of the SNP group was equally boorish. I found a lot of the Conservative interventions pretty cheap point-scoring as well. Nobody's finest hour.
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Post by aargauer on Jan 20, 2023 13:26:06 GMT
It's a profoundly tedious culture war that distracts from real issues.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 20, 2023 14:55:25 GMT
I don't see what's so brave about taking an anti-trans line that'll have practically the entire British media falling over saying you're right.
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 20, 2023 15:30:43 GMT
It's a profoundly tedious culture war that distracts from real issues. In many respects it has become THE major issue to many of us.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 20, 2023 15:36:37 GMT
That may say more about you than about the issue.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jan 20, 2023 15:39:28 GMT
I don't see what's so brave about taking an anti-trans line that'll have practically the entire British media falling over saying you're right. Maybe because of the social media responses she gets and the reactions of too many of her fellow Labour MPs?
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 20, 2023 15:40:12 GMT
That may say more about you than about the issue. And inversely , about you!
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