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Post by rcronald on Oct 8, 2021 10:16:04 GMT
is he Neturei Karta or something like that? I haven’t the faintest idea, he was just interviewed in a New York Times profile of her prior to the Minnesota primary last year. Because of the squad ladies her statements are by far the worst of the 5 (and that includes Rashida Talib who is a terrorist supporter and staunch anti-Zionist but not an anti-samite)
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 8, 2021 10:21:40 GMT
I haven’t the faintest idea, he was just interviewed in a New York Times profile of her prior to the Minnesota primary last year. Because of the squad ladies her statements are by far the worst of the 5 (and that includes Rashida Talib who is a terrorist supporter and staunch anti-Zionist but not an anti-samite) Tlaib and semite. That’s your interpretation, but it was clear that the Jewish establishment (not assuming the Synagogue spoke for the wider Jewish community) in her District were happy with her, and were actively campaigning to defeat her four primary opponents, one of whom had been endorsed by the Minneapolis Star-Tribune suggesting an element of credibility.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 8, 2021 10:25:33 GMT
Because of the squad ladies her statements are by far the worst of the 5 (and that includes Rashida Talib who is a terrorist supporter and staunch anti-Zionist but not an anti-samite) Tlaib and semite. That’s your interpretation, but it was clear that the Jewish establishment (not assuming the Synagogue spoke for the wider Jewish community) in her District were happy with her, and were actively campaigning to defeat her four primary opponents, one of whom had been endorsed by the Minneapolis Star-Tribune suggesting an element of credibility. How is it clear?
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 8, 2021 10:34:04 GMT
Tlaib and semite. That’s your interpretation, but it was clear that the Jewish establishment (not assuming the Synagogue spoke for the wider Jewish community) in her District were happy with her, and were actively campaigning to defeat her four primary opponents, one of whom had been endorsed by the Minneapolis Star-Tribune suggesting an element of credibility. How is it clear? Err because, as I said a couple of posts ago, the local Rabbi was co-chair of her campaign committee, and the Synagogue hosted a fundraiser for her; it’s only a wild guess, but I doubt whether they would do that if they weren’t supporting her, and, given there were three challengers in the Democratic primary, they did have alternatives without having to vote Republican, which was also an option.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 8, 2021 10:45:44 GMT
Err because, as I said a couple of posts ago, the local Rabbi was co-chair of her campaign committee, and the Synagogue hosted a fundraiser for her; it’s only a wild guess, but I doubt whether they would do that if they weren’t supporting her, and, given there were three challengers in the Democratic primary, they did have alternatives without having to vote Republican, which was also an option. It’s one synagogue, to say that the majority of Jews in her district supported her is almost certainly not true. Do you think that the majority of Jews in the Labour Party supported JC because Jon Lansman is very tight with him?
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 8, 2021 10:54:48 GMT
Err because, as I said a couple of posts ago, the local Rabbi was co-chair of her campaign committee, and the Synagogue hosted a fundraiser for her; it’s only a wild guess, but I doubt whether they would do that if they weren’t supporting her, and, given there were three challengers in the Democratic primary, they did have alternatives without having to vote Republican, which was also an option. It’s one synagogue, to say the majority of Jews in her district supported her is almost certainly not true. Do you think that the majority of Jews in the Labour Party supported JC because Jon Lansman is very tight with him? I specifically didn’t say a majority of Jews in her District supported her, I added the caveat that the synagogue may not have been representative of the wider Jewish community for that very reason; do try reading, it avoids me having to waste time typing the same thing three or four times before you understand basic English. And yes, it was only one synagogue, but it just happened to be the only one in her District; perhaps you’d prefer it if the reporter had gone and asked the views of members of a synagogue in Dallas, or Raleigh, or Topeka, Kansas?
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 8, 2021 11:02:20 GMT
I'm sorry, but knowing some Jews, signing papers and going to left wing events means very little indeed if you endorse the idea that Jews secretly and nefariously run the world for profit. It's little better than "but some of my best friends are black". The difference is unlike the "some of my best friends are black" people those individuals have all came out in defence of Corbyn and categorically said that in their personal opinion as Jews Corbyn is in no way an anti semite Genuine question, have you actually read Imperialism by Hobson? This is the same book and author that a certain Mr Nicholas Clegg gushed over back in the day, yes? To almost total radio silence at the time.
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Post by rivers10 on Oct 8, 2021 11:04:29 GMT
if not ms. “it’s all about the benjamins” Then who is? Highlighting the role of superpac money in US politics (yes even money from the pro Israel lobby) is not in any way anti Semitic, its a provable statement of fact that billions of dollars flows from various lobby groups to US politicians and yes in American politics there is a pro Israeli lobby (it doesn't hide its own existence, its even got a name, a HQ and a board of directors) Just like there's a Palestine lobby, a gun lobby, a union lobby, a LGBTQ lobby and a fossil fuel lobby. Its only racist though apparently to highlight and critique the work and influence of one of these groups which is a curious turn of events Those that then tried to impose an even deeper meaning on the phrase "all about the Benjamin's" by insinuating this was a direct allusion to Judaism by invoking the origin of the name Benjamin or even claiming it was in reference to Netanyahu are only making themselves look unhinged. It's been a well known American colloquialism referring to money for decades, Benjamin referring to Benjamin Franklin who appears on the 100 dollar bill. This is such a common colloquialism in the US there is a song and a movie named after it And yet due to the harassment she still apologised, personally I'd have told everyone to sod off
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Post by neilm on Oct 8, 2021 14:01:18 GMT
Or the litany of Labour MP's that literally told people to vote for other parties at the last election How many of these were there and can you name them?
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 8, 2021 14:22:31 GMT
Or the litany of Labour MP's that literally told people to vote for other parties at the last election How many of these were there and can you name them? They’re jostling for space with the other voices in his head.
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Post by stb12 on Oct 8, 2021 15:20:44 GMT
Any 2017 Labour MPs who endorsed other parties left the party before the 2019 election as far as I remember
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Post by rivers10 on Oct 8, 2021 16:17:56 GMT
Or the litany of Labour MP's that literally told people to vote for other parties at the last election How many of these were there and can you name them? Ian Austin Louise Ellman Ivan Lewis Joan Ryan John Mann John Woodcock Chukka Umunna Luciana Berger Frank Field Gavin Shuker Mike Gapes Chris Leslie Angela Smith Roger Godsiff Anne Coffey I know what your thinking, they had all defected by the time of the election and are no longer Labour MP's, OK fair enough then whats Margaret Hodge's excuse www.thetimes.co.uk/article/vote-for-a-pro-eu-party-not-mine-says-labours-dame-margaret-hodge-8jfjc5zlq
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Post by rivers10 on Oct 8, 2021 16:18:48 GMT
How many of these were there and can you name them? They’re jostling for space with the other voices in his head. Mental health slurs aren't very appealing
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 8, 2021 16:21:31 GMT
They’re jostling for space with the other voices in his head. Mental health slurs aren't very appealing Neither are lies.
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 8, 2021 16:23:04 GMT
European election not General Election. Fail, try again.
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Post by rivers10 on Oct 8, 2021 16:24:54 GMT
European election not General Election. Fail, try again. False alarm everyone, the Labour MP in question only told people not to vote Labour in the other national election just a few months prior and then didn't actually revoke her statement at the next election So it's all ok
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Post by neilm on Oct 8, 2021 16:29:19 GMT
European election not General Election. Fail, try again. False alarm everyone, the Labour MP in question only told people not to vote Labour in the other national election just a few months prior and then didn't actually revoke her statement at the next election So it's all ok She didn't tell people to vote for other parties, though. She suggested they use their judgement to vote for pro-Remain candidates at the Euro elections. So, you've got one MP who said in a specific circumstance to consider not voting Labour, rather than a litany who advised people not to.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 8, 2021 16:30:09 GMT
I mean I doubt a single one of us here haven't enjoyed a Roald Dahl book when we were younger, are we all therefore anti semites as well? Puts up hand. Not only haven't enjoyed one; haven't read one.
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 8, 2021 16:33:23 GMT
European election not General Election. Fail, try again. False alarm everyone, the Labour MP in question only told people not to vote Labour in the other national election just a few months prior and then didn't actually revoke her statement at the next election So it's all ok How do you know she didn’t revoke it? Presumably she asked people to vote for her, and she also went to a number of marginal seats for Labour candidates (Stoke North for example). And your statement clearly said “at the last election” and then backed it up with a story that was not connected to the last election. Keep making things up, Jeffrey Archer made a fortune out of c**p fiction, so there’s obviously a market for you to exploit. Bye.
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Post by rivers10 on Oct 8, 2021 16:37:33 GMT
False alarm everyone, the Labour MP in question only told people not to vote Labour in the other national election just a few months prior and then didn't actually revoke her statement at the next election So it's all ok She didn't tell people to vote for other parties, though. She suggested they use their judgement to vote for pro-Remain candidates at the Euro elections. So, you've got one MP who said in a specific circumstance to consider not voting Labour, rather than a litany who advised people not to. If we're genuinely gonna play semantic games and look at a list of a dozen people elected as Labour MP's and claim that I'm making an unreasonable statement because they'd weren't technically Labour MP's at that point then fine I hold my hands up but everybody knows the effect was the same as if they were still Labour MP's Also for the record Hodge didnt just mouth off Labour she actually voted Tory in 2019, I obviously can't prove it but I was told by a moderate Labour MP who knows her personally so make of that what you will
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