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Post by johng on Aug 13, 2021 14:56:48 GMT
His vote share fell in 2015. Also, whilst it increased in 2017, his majority was cut to just a couple of hundred.
Still, you're right that someone who gets above 50% of the vote can hardly be described as despised.
If they both want it, there will be a real fight for the new Pembrokeshire seat. Ceredigion and Preseli will be a very likely Plaid hold/ gain and the Carmarthen seat a very tough fight. I think we look quite strong and are in the running for it too.
41.1 in 2010 to 43.7 in 2015, although I did get that from Wikipedia. I really need to read more carefully! I thought you were talking about Crabb.
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Post by greatkingrat on Aug 13, 2021 16:40:37 GMT
Carbb would probably be the candidate for South Pembrokeshire (I would personally call it Permbrokeshire). What I asked (and guessed) is that having a high profile candidate in Simon Hart would probably help the Tories in Carmerthen. By high profile I assume you mean widely despised....and fail to see how that will help his cause. If 52.7% of the vote is "widely despised", what word would you use to describe the electorates view of Gwlad?
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Post by Tony Otim on Aug 13, 2021 18:18:05 GMT
By high profile I assume you mean widely despised....and fail to see how that will help his cause. If 52.7% of the vote is "widely despised", what word would you use to describe the electorates view of Gwlad? Almost complete ignorance?
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Post by heslingtonian on Oct 2, 2021 20:54:10 GMT
According to tomorrow's Mail on Sunday, three unnamed Labour MPs are considering defecting to the Conservatives.
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 2, 2021 21:03:02 GMT
According to tomorrow's Mail on Sunday, three unnamed Labour MPs are considering defecting to the Conservatives. Shall we try to guess who they are? Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Andy McDonald?
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Post by greenhert on Oct 2, 2021 21:05:39 GMT
Shall we try to guess who they are? Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Andy McDonald? You must be joking. Speculation on Twitter is that Rosie Duffield is very likely to be among the three.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 2, 2021 21:06:34 GMT
Shall we try to guess who they are? Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Andy McDonald? Very 'wishful' thinking
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Oct 2, 2021 21:09:17 GMT
According to tomorrow's Mail on Sunday, three unnamed Labour MPs are considering defecting to the Conservatives. I could see left wingers/Corbynisters leaving Labour at the moment, but why would any of the Labour MPs on the right of Labour leave? I’m afraid I’ll believe it when I see it.
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 2, 2021 21:10:20 GMT
Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Andy McDonald? You must be joking. Speculation on Twitter is that Rosie Duffield is very likely to be among the three. Of course I was joking, jeez 🙄
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Post by heslingtonian on Oct 2, 2021 21:11:52 GMT
I'd wonder about pro-Brexit Blue Labour types like Jon Cruddas and Graham Stringer.
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Post by greenhert on Oct 2, 2021 21:12:03 GMT
As for other likely candidates amongst the three, Graham Stringer given his staunch Euroscepticism.
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Post by heslingtonian on Oct 2, 2021 21:16:26 GMT
Based on recent behaviour perhaps Khalid Mahmood as well?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 2, 2021 22:12:02 GMT
According to tomorrow's Mail on Sunday, three unnamed Labour MPs are considering defecting to the Conservatives. I could see left wingers/Corbynisters leaving Labour at the moment, but why would any of the Labour MPs on the right of Labour leave? I’m afraid I’ll believe it when I see it. Given the miserable votes generally* harvested by parties to the left of Labour it seems unlikely that left wingers would sacrifice salary for principle. * I recognise the success occasionally achieved e.g. Nellist.
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Post by peterl on Oct 2, 2021 22:17:03 GMT
Keir Starmer. Then he might have a chance of succeeding Johnson.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 22:33:47 GMT
I would be absolutely astonished. No Labour MP has crossed the floor to join the Conservatives in over 40 years. To happen under an Old-Etonian 'clown', during a fuel 'crisis', with a Labour leader that's actually trying to be more moderate... I think the phrase is 'Treat with caution'.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 22:35:43 GMT
Based on recent behaviour perhaps Khalid Mahmood as well? To the racist Tories? Angela would be livid.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Oct 2, 2021 22:59:33 GMT
Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Andy McDonald? You must be joking. Speculation on Twitter is that Rosie Duffield is very likely to be among the three. I doubt she would. She seems pretty centre-left. This was her response BTW.
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 2, 2021 23:24:01 GMT
Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Andy McDonald? You must be joking. Speculation on Twitter is that Rosie Duffield is very likely to be among the three. Doesn't sound like someone planning to defect!
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Post by grahammurray on Oct 2, 2021 23:54:57 GMT
You must be joking. Speculation on Twitter is that Rosie Duffield is very likely to be among the three. Doesn't sound like someone planning to defect! Assuming she writes her own tweets.
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 2, 2021 23:56:35 GMT
Doesn't sound like someone planning to defect! Assuming she writes her own tweets. I suspect she does as her Twitter is set to private.
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