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Post by andrew111 on Jul 13, 2022 21:33:41 GMT
There is no sign - certainly not yet - of the UK behaving in good faith for the trust that would be required for such an arrangement. The Tories getting smashed at the next election would be a first requirement that might indicate that the fever has broken. Ignoring the partisanship - this wouldn't just apply to the UK. There are clearly those inside and those outside the EU who would be comfortable with a loose arrangement involving pooled sovereignty, which allows for free trade, without coalescing to macrostate with a single currency, and simultaneously letting (infact, actively enabling) those that want the macrostate do that. It would require a compromise - for instance that free movement of goods has to involve free movement of people would simply have to go. In the real world the biggest impediment is linguistic barriers anyway. Free movement could be fully maintained in the inner circle (and may be an option for each outer circle country). "simply have to go" That rather depends who is negotiating it, doesn't it..
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Post by clyde1998 on Jul 15, 2022 13:11:23 GMT
Westminster VI (13-14 Jul):Lab 40 (nc) Con 29 (nc) LDm 13 (-2) Grn 7 (+1) SNP 4 (-1) RUK 4 (+1) PC 1 (nc) Oth 2 (nc) link
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Post by cogload on Aug 2, 2022 16:49:13 GMT
Well, you can't accuse the pollsters of herding:
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Post by casualobserver on Aug 2, 2022 22:28:23 GMT
Outside the run-up to an election there’s little incentivisation to herd.
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Post by batman on Aug 8, 2022 14:30:09 GMT
Is this also the poll which finds that Starmer is preferred as PM to both Truss & Sunak?
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Aug 8, 2022 14:41:01 GMT
Is this also the poll which finds that Starmer is preferred as PM to both Truss & Sunak? If that happens Labour might just might need to feel they could breakthrough but it would need sustaining and figures like economic competence would need to swing their way
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Post by timmullen1 on Aug 8, 2022 15:02:47 GMT
Is this also the poll which finds that Starmer is preferred as PM to both Truss & Sunak? If that happens Labour might just might need to feel they could breakthrough but it would need sustaining and figures like economic competence would need to swing their way It appears so - page 2 of the data tables docs.cdn.yougov.com/9djuua4bq3/TheTimes_VI_ConLeadership_220805_W.pdf
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 17, 2022 11:09:30 GMT
Times seems to be publishing its YouGov polls rather late these days.
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Post by woollyliberal on Aug 17, 2022 11:34:08 GMT
Times seems to be publishing its YouGov polls rather late these days. Perhaps if the results were more "newsworthy", they'd get published sooner.
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 17, 2022 11:43:07 GMT
But they did the same (ie publish it about a week after it was done) with the poll showing the Tories only 1 point behind.
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Post by batman on Aug 17, 2022 17:19:56 GMT
only 2 polls in the last week or thereabouts, but there seemed to be a mini-honeymoon for Liz Truss in some polls and now Labour appears to be lengthening its lead again. Too early to be sure if that's the case yet.
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Post by jamie on Aug 17, 2022 17:22:34 GMT
Aldi, Asda and Morrisons attract more Labour voters, while Sainsburys, Tesco and especially Waitrose tend to have (relatively) more Conservative shoppers.
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Post by mattbewilson on Aug 18, 2022 8:19:54 GMT
only 2 polls in the last week or thereabouts, but there seemed to be a mini-honeymoon for Liz Truss in some polls and now Labour appears to be lengthening its lead again. Too early to be sure if that's the case yet. I think pollsters like to it noise
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Post by batman on Aug 18, 2022 15:20:18 GMT
cum on feel the polling noize
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Aug 18, 2022 16:13:44 GMT
cum on feel the polling noize Welcome Noddy
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Post by iang on Aug 18, 2022 18:22:05 GMT
The next election could still be Far, Far Away
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Post by aidypiez on Aug 18, 2022 19:32:52 GMT
This thread has taken a strange turn. My oh my
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