|
|
Post by iainbhx on Aug 10, 2014 13:43:57 GMT
Outlandishly, it is possible for the CDU to pull off a majority government in Sachsen. They should win all their 58 seats again and if the polls are correct, they could add on the other two as well both of them only have very small SED majorities. If you lose AfD, FDP and NDP, depending on the second vote splits, they might just be able to pull off a list seat or two.
It would be amusing if the FDP staying in Thüringen and losing in Sachsen considering they've actually been decent to good in Sachsen and they've been fecking useless in Thüringen,
|
|
|
|
Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 10, 2014 15:58:43 GMT
It would be a phenomenal achievement to have a majority, but even more unusual with the state that, in its Weimar incarnation, was possibly the least stable of all the Laender!
|
|
|
|
Post by iainbhx on Aug 10, 2014 16:04:38 GMT
It would be a phenomenal achievement to have a majority, but even more unusual with the state that, in its Weimar incarnation, was possibly the least stable of all the Laender! They had a majority from reunification through to 2004 if I remember correctly. |
|
|
|
Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 10, 2014 16:20:01 GMT
It would be a phenomenal achievement to have a majority, but even more unusual with the state that, in its Weimar incarnation, was possibly the least stable of all the Laender! They had a majority from reunification through to 2004 if I remember correctly. So they did- passed me by. |
|
|
|
Post by iainbhx on Aug 26, 2014 18:26:21 GMT
Landeslisten for Brandenburg
Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (SPD)
DIE LINKE (DIE LINKE)
Christlich Demokratische Union Deutschlands (CDU)
Freie Demokratische Partei (FDP)
BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN (GRÜNE/B 90)
Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (NPD)
Brandenburger Vereinigte Bürgerbewegungen / Freie Wähler (BVB / FREIE WÄHLER)
DIE REPUBLIKANER (REP)
Deutsche Kommunistische Partei (DKP)
Alternative für Deutschland (AfD)
Piratenpartei Deutschland (PIRATEN)
Down from 14 in 2009
Landeslisten for Thüringen
Christlich Demokratische Union Deutschlands (CDU)
DIE LINKE (DIE LINKE)
Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (SPD)
Freie Demokratische Partei (FDP)
BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN (GRÜNE)
Alternative für Deutschland (AfD)
Die Parteifreien Wähler (DPFW)
DIE REPUBLIKANER (REP)
FREIE WÄHLER in Thüringen (FREIE WÄHLER)
Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands (KPD)
Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (NPD)
Partei für Arbeit, Rechtsstaat, Tierschutz, Elitenförderung und basisdemokratische Initiative (Die PARTEI)
Piratenpartei Deutschland (PIRATEN)
Same numbers as 2009
Landeslisten for Sachsen
Christlich Demokratische Union Deutschlands (CDU)
DIE LINKE (DIE LINKE)
Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (SPD)
Freie Demokratische Partei (FDP)
BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN (GRÜNE)
Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (NPD)
PARTEI MENSCH UMWELT TIERSCHUTZ (Tierschutzpartei)
Piratenpartei Deutschland (PIRATEN)
Bürgerrechtsbewegung Solidarität (BüSo)
Deutsche Soziale Union (DSU)
Alternative für Deutschland (AfD)
Bürgerbewegung pro Deutschland (pro Deutschland)
FREIE WÄHLER (FREIE WÄHLER)
Partei für Arbeit, Rechtsstaat, Tierschutz, Elitenförderung und basisdemokratische Initiative (Die PARTEI)
Down from 16 in 2009.
|
|
|
|
Post by iainbhx on Aug 26, 2014 18:33:20 GMT
Latest polls
Brandenburg: SPD 34 (+1), CDU 23 (+3), SED 22 (-5), GRÜ 6 (+1), AfD 6 (neu), FDP 3 (-4), Others 6
Sachsen: CDU 40 (-), SED 19 (-1), SPD 14 (+4), AfD 7 (neu), GRÜ 6,5 (-), NPD 5 (-), FDP 3,5 (-6.5), Others 5
Thüringen: No New Polls.
Sachsen goes to the Polls on Sunday.
|
|
Sibboleth
Labour
'Sit on my finger, sing in my ear, O littleblood.'
Posts: 16,025
|
Post by Sibboleth on Aug 26, 2014 18:39:03 GMT
Klaus Wowereit is to quit after thirteen years due to the airport fiasco business.
|
|
|
|
Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 26, 2014 19:03:34 GMT
BueSo! They're back! The only German party who would make me vote SED.
|
|
|
|
Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 26, 2014 19:08:22 GMT
Latest polls Brandenburg: SPD 34 (+1), CDU 23 (+3), SED 22 (-5), GRÜ 6 (+1), AfD 6 (neu), FDP 3 (-4), Others 6 Sachsen: CDU 40 (-), SED 19 (-1), SPD 14 (+4), AfD 7 (neu), GRÜ 6,5 (-), NPD 5 (-), FDP 3,5 (-6.5), Others 5 Thüringen: No New Polls. Sachsen goes to the Polls on Sunday. Knife-edge for the NPD in Saxony, I'd imagine that any sign of a surge for the AfD would pull them under the 5% as it would likely be their soft, anti-party vote that crosses over. My hopes are now high that Brandenburg will kick out the SED. I'd like to invite Richard Cromwell to this discussion as I'd be interested to see what he might know about the Republikaner and the NPD that we might not. |
|
|
|
Post by iainbhx on Aug 26, 2014 19:19:53 GMT
BueSo! They're back! The only German party who would make me vote SED. They've never really gone away, it's just that with some many Kleinparteien to vote for, they don't get the attention any more. I was more interested in the return of the DKP who previously have lurked in the darker corners of the SED's list. Yeah, BüSo or SED would be a tricky choice, I'd spoil my paper and write Zentrum all over it.  |
|
|
|
Post by iainbhx on Aug 26, 2014 19:26:16 GMT
Klaus Wowereit is to quit after thirteen years due to the airport fiasco business. Good grief, there was no hint of that in the Berlin Press this weekend, although I didn't really read much of the Sundays. BER is still believed to be at least 2 years away. At this rate U5 will meet U55 before the damn place is open*. The S-Bahn problems haven't helped him either. |
|
|
|
Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 26, 2014 19:29:40 GMT
BueSo! They're back! The only German party who would make me vote SED. They've never really gone away, it's just that with some many Kleinparteien to vote for, they don't get the attention any more. I was more interested in the return of the DKP who previously have lurked in the darker corners of the SED's list. Yeah, BüSo or SED would be a tricky choice, I'd spoil my paper and write Zentrum all over it. Do the DKP have any electoral presence beyond their platform in the SED these days? Spoil it with Zentrum or something really obscure like the CNBL. |
|
|
|
Post by iainbhx on Aug 26, 2014 19:33:43 GMT
They've never really gone away, it's just that with some many Kleinparteien to vote for, they don't get the attention any more. I was more interested in the return of the DKP who previously have lurked in the darker corners of the SED's list. Yeah, BüSo or SED would be a tricky choice, I'd spoil my paper and write Zentrum all over it. Do the DKP have any electoral presence beyond their platform in the SED these days? Spoil it with Zentrum or something really obscure like the CNBL. Yes, they are standing a separate list in Brandenburg. They are, of course, not to be confused with the KPD (1990) who are standing in Sachsen and who were, of course, Oncle Erich's final party after he was expelled from the SED. There are, of course, various other tiny groups of splitters. |
|
|
|
Post by Richard Cromwell on Aug 28, 2014 17:50:27 GMT
Latest polls Brandenburg: SPD 34 (+1), CDU 23 (+3), SED 22 (-5), GRÜ 6 (+1), AfD 6 (neu), FDP 3 (-4), Others 6 Sachsen: CDU 40 (-), SED 19 (-1), SPD 14 (+4), AfD 7 (neu), GRÜ 6,5 (-), NPD 5 (-), FDP 3,5 (-6.5), Others 5 Thüringen: No New Polls. Sachsen goes to the Polls on Sunday. Knife-edge for the NPD in Saxony, I'd imagine that any sign of a surge for the AfD would pull them under the 5% as it would likely be their soft, anti-party vote that crosses over. My hopes are now high that Brandenburg will kick out the SED. I'd like to invite Richard Cromwell to this discussion as I'd be interested to see what he might know about the Republikaner and the NPD that we might not. Whilst I appreciate the nod and apologise for not getting to this soon (been having a lot of computer trouble), I'm afraid I have very little information to share. I knew quite a lot about the Greeks (Golden Dawn) and a little about the Swedish (Sweden Democrats) and the Italians (Casa Pound), but even that information is a year or so out of date (my interest peaked the former were riding high). I've got a lot of knowledge stored up on the German far-right (and left, now that I mention it) but its limited to a particular time period (ending with what little I now about the Declaration of Venice). |
|
|
|
Post by iainbhx on Aug 29, 2014 6:21:35 GMT
Whilst a crude comparison, saying that the Republikaner are the spiritual descendants of the DNVP and the NDP of the NSDAP might clarify things a little.
|
|
|
|
Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 29, 2014 7:40:44 GMT
That's probably fair. REP have always struck me as just being a hard-right CDU split-off, but I sense you're correct. They're probably more like the FPOe than the OeVP, to use the Austrian example.
|
|
|
|
Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 29, 2014 7:41:54 GMT
Knife-edge for the NPD in Saxony, I'd imagine that any sign of a surge for the AfD would pull them under the 5% as it would likely be their soft, anti-party vote that crosses over. My hopes are now high that Brandenburg will kick out the SED. I'd like to invite Richard Cromwell to this discussion as I'd be interested to see what he might know about the Republikaner and the NPD that we might not. Whilst I appreciate the nod and apologise for not getting to this soon (been having a lot of computer trouble), I'm afraid I have very little information to share. I knew quite a lot about the Greeks (Golden Dawn) and a little about the Swedish (Sweden Democrats) and the Italians (Casa Pound), but even that information is a year or so out of date (my interest peaked the former were riding high). I've got a lot of knowledge stored up on the German far-right (and left, now that I mention it) but its limited to a particular time period (ending with what little I now about the Declaration of Venice). The SD info would be interesting on the Swedish thread that's going, especially as one chap on there has difficulty understanding what a fascist party is and isn't! |
|
carlton43
Reform Party
Posts: 50,877 
Member is Online
|
Post by carlton43 on Aug 29, 2014 9:56:45 GMT
Whilst I appreciate the nod and apologise for not getting to this soon (been having a lot of computer trouble), I'm afraid I have very little information to share. I knew quite a lot about the Greeks (Golden Dawn) and a little about the Swedish (Sweden Democrats) and the Italians (Casa Pound), but even that information is a year or so out of date (my interest peaked the former were riding high). I've got a lot of knowledge stored up on the German far-right (and left, now that I mention it) but its limited to a particular time period (ending with what little I now about the Declaration of Venice). The SD info would be interesting on the Swedish thread that's going, especially as one chap on there has difficulty understanding what a fascist party is and isn't! Shurely not?? He has a lot of degrees and HE is a professor! |
|
|
|
Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 29, 2014 13:35:59 GMT
The SD info would be interesting on the Swedish thread that's going, especially as one chap on there has difficulty understanding what a fascist party is and isn't! Shurely not?? He has a lot of degrees and HE is a professor! I know, I think his degrees are degree-ier than any degree the rest of us might have. |
|
|
|
Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 31, 2014 12:13:33 GMT
Last poll yesterday for Saxony for ZDF: CDU: 40.5%, SPD: 15%, G/B90: 5.5%, FDP: 3%, AfD: 7%, NPD: 5%, SED: 19% The NPD growth, which I must admit surprises me and I hadn't noticed, appears to have been at the expense of the SED, which means that totalitarianism is clearly alive and well. The Greens appear to be on a downturn, and it's not inconceivable that the Greens, NPD and FDP could all slip out of the Landtag. Over in Brandenburg, latest poll for the Maerksiche Allgemeine: CDU: 27%, SPD 33%, Green 5%, SED 21%, FDP 2%, AfD 7%. www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/landtage/index.htmNote that AfD are apparently polling strongest in Saxony and Baden-Wuerttemberg. |
|
